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Re: Hotel Palestine
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 11 Apr 2003 01:59:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Pedro Silva writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Pedro Silva writes:
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> > > Please elaborate.
> > > Personally, I think a (known to be occupied) hotel is a "don't shoot" place,
> > > much like a hospital.
> >
> > I think this particular regime waived that notion when they started
> > stationing (and firing) AA from inside hospitals and stationing (and firing)
> > tanks next to mosques.
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> So what - you soot the mosque next to the tank, or the tank? Do you shoot
> the hospital wards next to the AA, or the AA?
You shoot the tank, or the AA, and hope for the best.
I like Frank's analysis... if your enemy is desperate enough to blow off the
normal rules of war, you don't get a free pass, you still have to do your
best to stick to your own rules and stick to your own principles. But if
things DO go awry, it's not your fault.
> Or in this case, does the tank shoot at the MoI (target), or the hotel some
> 100+ meters from it?
At the hotel balcony of the sniper firing RPGs at the tank.
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> > These reporters were told that Baghdad was a dangerous place and they would
> > be taking their chances. They took their chances. I saw some of these rocket
> > scientists on TV this morning, they were doing things like running directly
> > in front of oncoming tanks so they could get better shots.
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> Precisely. Those are daredevils: would the average reporter get in front of
> traffic on a busy highway? No. Much in the same way the average reporter
> chose to stay in a place they considered isolated enough not to be struck by
> rogue shells - the Hotel Palestine.
This says a lot about the situational awareness and judgement of the average
reporter...
> > Think of it as evolution in action.
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> Please explain. I don't get the analogy.
Put it another way: Stupidity is self correcting, in the long run.
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| (...) A clever idea, but a common misconception: after tens of thousands of years of people existing, most of us are still pretty stupid - at least some of the time (hey, I persist in posting to o-t.d!). The long run must be pretty long indeed! (...) (21 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) And is it your responsability? Or accountability, if you prefer? (...) There was no such thing. If there were an RPG, knoing it's fire would have been obviously noticed (and reporters had the time to run), it could be taken down with a shell. (...) (21 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) So what - you soot the mosque next to the tank, or the tank? Do you shoot the hospital wards next to the AA, or the AA? Or in this case, does the tank shoot at the MoI (target), or the hotel some 100+ meters from it? (...) Precisely. Those are (...) (21 years ago, 10-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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