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Re: Hotel Palestine
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Date: 
Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:00:57 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Pedro Silva writes:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/08/sprj.irq.hotel/index.html

Quote:

"U.S. military officials said U.S. forces fired on the Palestine Hotel in
response to sniper fire from various floors. It is not clear if the
explosion was the result of the U.S. response."

Comments to this:

a) the hotel was across the river from the US forces, which happened to be
*tanks* - those snipers must have had powerful guns, to harm those crews!

Tanks are not necessarily buttoned up (hatches closed with the crew inside).
I don't know the current tactical doctrine on whether the commander stays
exposed for greater visibilty or trusts to the optics and air-conditioning
of the tank or other AFV (Armored Fighting Vehicle).  Further, one cannot
assume that the enemy forces are restricted to rifles - anti-tank weapons
may be setting up or are in transit.  Someone else already responded with
the rules of engagement, which are certainly a factor.


b) "unclear", my @$$. European network EuroNews has shown images of a M1A1
tank firing roughly towards the camera, and one second later a big shake on
the hotel. Coincidence?

The truth is out there.  It will come out eventually.

c) if warning was given to journalists when the Ministry of (dis)Information
was to be hit, how come none was issued now that the journalist were "at base"?

Absurd. And grotesque.

Dunno.  Could be, then again, I don't see enough information to say "absurd"
or "grotesque".  Yet.  I have a hard time getting worked up over things like
this when first reported.  Conflicting reports come out, disinformation,
misinformation.  The story mutates and then it seems like wasted emotion.


Whomever identified that hotel as a target, that person clearly has no
capability to foresee the consequences of his actions. Wouldn't any army be
better off expurged of such incompetents?

Yes.  Idiocy and high-explosives are a dangerous mix.  But see below.

"Support the troops"... yeah, right. You might start to do that providing
them with some good sense!


Have good sense.  A person that voluntarily joined the military.  These are
mutually exclusive terms.  :-)

-->Bruce<--



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  Re: Hotel Palestine
 
(...) This one was. See it in www.euronews.net (choose language first; by the time I'm writing this, it's the second video on the main stories page - requires real player to be seen). The story is here: (URL)b) "unclear", my @$$. European network (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(URL) military officials said U.S. forces fired on the Palestine Hotel in response to sniper fire from various floors. It is not clear if the explosion was the result of the U.S. response." Comments to this: a) the hotel was across the river from (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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