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(...) This is interesting. Let's just assume you are correct for a moment. Two sceneries to consider: 1948 A "Palestinian" family has been living on a plot of land for 3 years. The Israel army happens along and bulldozes the family’s house in their (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) Israeli armour has been there since they started killing civilians and stealing land in '48. (...) What do you mean "started the whole thing"? Did they invite Israel to kick them of their land in '48? I think not. (...) They are (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) is (...) The (...) That was not really meant against you or your words personally. (which I did realize were not yours anyway.) (...) Already discussed elsewhere in the thread. (...) to (...) The Israeli armour only moved in after 18 months of (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) calling (...) name (...) Ok let me clarify. No one that was living on the land ever called it Palestine or called themselves Palestinians. The current group of 'Arab refugees' have adopted the name I assume to reinforce their 'ancestoral' ties (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The (...) Is the claim that "Palestine" was made up in '48? I thought that 2500 years ago Heroditus called the land that had been occupied by the Philistines by the name of Palestine. Though I know there are references suggesting that the name (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps we should call them “'Arab' refugees from the area formally known as Palestine but now known as Israel and the occupied territories”? Or ARFTAFKAPBNKAIATOT for short? ;) Scott A denial: (psychology) an ego defense mechanism that (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is not my choice of words. I am referring to the wording of the question... nothing more (see above). However, you are quite wrong. The Balfour declaration (1917) quite clearly referred to the area as “Palestine”. I have no idea when it was (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There is no (historic) Palestine. There is no such thing as Palestinians. The whole concept was made up during the last 50 years so 'we' could stop calling them Arab refugees. (...) Wouldn't it be cool if your "ordinary Palestinians" actually (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not quite, 51.5% think the aim is to liberate all (historic) Palestinian. I expect what you believe may well be true, but that stat does not show that. (...) Mr/Ms Average (...) Is that a "Yes"? (...) So why did he agree to Oslo? (...) Just an (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Is the bravest thing Dan Rather has ever done to admit his own cowardice?
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I share your concerns Richard, but is the press not just giving the public what they want? If Mr Rather were to be more critical, would the public just go elsewhere? Is it CBS's aim to maximise profit, or to enlighten the public? Can these two aims (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Is the bravest thing Dan Rather has ever done to admit his own cowardice? (this may wrap, cut and paste the whole URL) (URL) (Anchor, CBS Evening News -- on the subject of how much the current climate of extraordinary patriotism is stopping (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Questions on Bathing
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With the high humidity on that little island, I remember most of it gone 10 seconds after getting out of the shower. I'm sure it was filtered to some degree, just not to the drinking water standards. Boy I'd hate to have a jellyfish plop out of the (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Interesting. (...) My bet would be that it goes into the common sewer for treatment before being dumped back into the sea. (...) I agree! I take a shower when I come out of the sea just to get the sea goo off. Chris (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I saw the first one replayed during lunch today, and all I can say is that J. Pinto will be lucky if he does not get suspended *for good*. Beto shouldn't be in the field by then, so he is not entirely to blame (the coach should have (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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crunch-o-matic wrote in message ... (...) this (...) Hmmm. What do they do with the used seawater? Does it go through a treatment plant like the fresh water? Same treatment plant or an extra one? Or do they just dump it right back in the sea? I'd (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup? (everyone’s overreacting!)
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In response to your comment Richard, Although harsh, I think that it is fair for Tim to be disgusted. Tim approached the situation diplomatically, (even though the intial comment was not intended at him, it still affected him and his website a great (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Did you know in St. Croix the toilets and showers run on sea water? I think it would be a good idea to have coastal communities like LA and NYC use this method. How much fresh water would that save in a years time? (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I didn't watch that game, but I saw clips. Two red cards in one game is inexcusable, though. [...] (...) It was a bit of a mess. We've got some great players (very fast, especially against poland) but they don't seem to synergize. (...) When (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not sad because of the defeat, I'm upset because we played below our level AGAIN (that makes it the third time in the last 6 games, the worst of which was against Finland). It's really frustrating to know they could have done better, like (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wish I could say I wish it were otherwise, but I can't. Poland blew us out of the water, and if it wasn't for your red cards, we'd be in your shoes now. But you have my sympathy. (...) I'm very sorry for your loss. I didn't know anything (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wrote this yesterday, and I was full of hope. I, and all the folks who stopped their work today to see this match on the telly. We lost. :-( Never before I had seen so many people struggling to keep tears away from their faces, knowing that (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Why the absence of LD in their own newsgroup? (everyone’s overreacting!)
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~O.K. now everyone’s overreacting! Lugnet is looking out for it’s best interests… Lego is looking out for it’s best interest… And I'm sure FBTB is doin’ the same thing too… But before anybody does anything rash lets just take a step back and reflect (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What do you mean by "all the statistics said was that.."? The conclusion is that over half of the Palestinians want Israel GONE. That seems pretty significant to me. (...) Define "ordinary Palestinians" (...) I'm not going to deny that there (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Absolutely! My perennial bugaboo is the ol' "Creationism in public schools" mantra that's lately mysteriously popular here in the Dark Ages of Western PA. I'd love the Supreme Court to say once and for all "it ain't science and never will be, (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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All the statistics said was that: "51.1 percent said that the aim of the Intifadah is to liberate all Palestinian land (historic Palestine) as opposed to 42.8 percent who said the Intifadah's aim is to end the Israeli occupation." However, only (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Consider also that only your first appeal to a higher court is a matter of right, all subsequent appeals must be granted certiorari. That means to reach the Supreme Court you have to have something that the courts are even willing to (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Upon rereading it, I agree. It's a bit more scattershot than I'd initially thought. (...) I suppose that, as a matter of practice, to do otherwise would cause the judiciary to sort of bleed into the legislature. If there is any other way to (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Bye, bye Argentina! (was Re: USA soccer team at the World Cup -- everyone shocked!)
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(...) Eheheheh... I have some pics that can explain *why* Argentina lost ;-) (I can e-mail them upon request) Anyway, I'm looking forward to watch tomorrow's match between Portugal and South Korea. That will be interesting, to see the group's (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Bye, bye Argentina! (was Re: USA soccer team at the World Cup -- everyone shocked!)
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Abmisal performance by the Argentinian team!!! Mind you, Italy were lucky to stay in the game courtesy of Ecuador beating Croatia (who beat Italy in an earlier match). Steffan (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am not a lawyer, Dave!, but I think the answer is no. But that doesn't really mean anything -- not if you understand the Ashwander Doctrine which I have mentioned here in debate previously (see: (URL) The main thing is the court will avoid (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not at all. Look at we americans at this very moment -- don't you think our views about Arabs, Muslims, and ? has been at least partially radicalized by several instances of violence over the years including the events of 9-11? The (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If they could - yes! But, to be honest, I think most resistance is at the high level: Secret Middle East talks in Britain (URL) A (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message news:GxK3ux.LKv@lugnet.com... (...) me (...) as (...) the (...) the (...) is the (...) I liked the ad: "Get moore freedom, try MSN Internet Access today"... In the middle of the page... So you do not think (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) To sit on while drying your feet after the shower. Also, to avoid the unpleasantness of looking into the toilet. Makes the room seem more civilized. --Bill. (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My understanding is that body odor comes not from sweat, but from stale sweat. It isn't the sweat itself that stinks, it's the byproducts of the bacteria digesting the sweat. If you shower often the sweat doesn't stay on you long enough to (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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There is a slice-of-life article in the New York Times 6/11 about public restrooms in the subways. There is talk of hazard suits and padlocked doors. It cost too much to repair them constantly, and even more to hire attendants, so now they just try (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My mother claims a friend of hers caught some sort of viral ailment from breathing in the vapors generated by flushing a toilet in a Kmart restroom. She is so persistent with stories like this that my six year old made it from our house fifty (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pretty much, but it's considered socially unacceptable to use the two interchangeably. Dave! (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fair enough. My travels have brought me into contact more with pungent folks than with over-perfumed people, so maybe it's a matter of experience. It's hard to make use of public transport without getting a heady dose of funk. (...) Come on, (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought it was so we could piss all over the top of the bowl and still defecate without sitting in it. ;-) What I think is really bizarre is that we wash our wastes away with purified drinking water. I'd prefer to composte my waste as per (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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