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Re: Followup: USA soccer team at the World Cup
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Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:10:58 GMT
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"Pedro Silva" <el_gordo@netc.pt> writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, William R. Ward writes:
> > "Pedro Silva" <el_gordo@netc.pt> writes:
> > > We lost.
> > > :-(
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> > I wish I could say I wish it were otherwise, but I can't. Poland blew
> > us out of the water, and if it wasn't for your red cards, we'd be in
> > your shoes now. But you have my sympathy.
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> I'm not sad because of the defeat, I'm upset because we played below our
> level AGAIN (that makes it the third time in the last 6 games, the worst of
> which was against Finland). It's really frustrating to know they could have
> done better, like in the Euro 2000... *sigh!*
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> As for the red cards... João Pinto must have his ears burning by now, that
> foul was UTTERLY stupid and unnecessary at that point. Beto has an excuse,
> the coach ought to have replaced him for 2nd half.
> I hope the coach quits, and the former one returns - he was fired after a
> *brilliant* set of games, go figure...
I didn't watch that game, but I saw clips. Two red cards in one game
is inexcusable, though.
[...]
> > In that case, may the best team be USA! (Not that I expect they will,
> > but one can always hope...)
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> Hey, if they play cool-minded and keep up the good teamwork, they stand fair
> chances. They are very young though, and that is a handicap (paradoxally).
> But since I have not seen Mexico play yet, I won't risk a bet on either team.
It was a bit of a mess. We've got some great players (very fast,
especially against poland) but they don't seem to synergize.
> > I stayed up until 6am watching that
> > debacle.
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> It IS addictive, isn't it?
> :-P
When you've got a stake in the outcome, it is. Mostly I've been able
to restrain my self from staying up too late at night. The early
matches (15:30 local time) are at 23:30 here, which isn't too bad, but
the later matches (20:30 local) are at 04:30 here, so it's definitely
difficult to fit that into my schedule of sleep and work....
> > I'm just glad Korea won, since we couldn't seem to manage
> > it. I'm just glad Poland didn't play like that against Portugal and
> > Korea, or we'd all be in trouble.
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> The Poles were surprised by Korea, which is in my view a very strong team
> with a fantastic coach. Then they caught us in a rage/pride moment (June
> 10th was Portugal Day, a defeat would be *unthinkable*). The only real
> chance they had was against the younger US players.
And an incredible 12th man. Korea kept us out of the goal very well,
but didn't make much of a credible effort to score.
> The thing that bugs me the most is that the Korean players were not even
> after victory today, all they wanted was to "stall". To be honest, they only
> scored after they realised we were *not even trying* (Pauleta replaced by J.
> Andrade, an attacker out for a defender... the coach is insane!). Because,
> let's face it, the Koreans would have *loved* to come second and face Mexico
> instead of Italy!!!
Well, Mexico did win their group, and Italy is second place, which
says something. But USA plays Mexico fairly regularly, I think, which
means that they probably know their opponent very well. Germany and
Paraguay should be interesting to watch, though. I don't look forward
to facing either of those teams.
> Anyway, the whole match is now being subject of close inspection by some 20
> million eyes, belonging to some 10 million "couch-coaches" - heads will
> roll, definately. The lesson must not be forgotten, in two years we will
> host the European Cup and *we must be up to it* by then!!!
In American football there is a term "Monday morning quarterback"...
hindsight is always 20/20 but doesn't count for much....
--Bill.
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William R Ward bill@wards.net http://www.wards.net/~bill/
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| (...) I saw the first one replayed during lunch today, and all I can say is that J. Pinto will be lucky if he does not get suspended *for good*. Beto shouldn't be in the field by then, so he is not entirely to blame (the coach should have (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'm not sad because of the defeat, I'm upset because we played below our level AGAIN (that makes it the third time in the last 6 games, the worst of which was against Finland). It's really frustrating to know they could have done better, like (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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