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(...) So. You admit you were wrong to disagree with Larry about his assessment of your position as being that the Lion was amoral? (...) Do you think "judge" is incorrect? Please suggest a better word. What is it that family/friends may do with (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Guns & crowbars & mace, oh my (was: not SPAM)
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(...) Heh. FUT .off-topic.fun, because it's fun, and that's not debateable. :) (...) I think you leapt to a conclusion. :) But I'll give the answers anyway:(1) My belt is a kidney belt, made of 5 inch wide 16 ounce leather, backed with plastic (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Survey methodology relating to latest LP SPAM
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Would you two just take it offline and shut the hell up? How many times are people going to have to tell you that your endless sniping at each other is the most annoying thing in this group before you shut up, play nice, and ignore each other? (...) (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) O.K. sooooo I know that this if off-topic even for this off-topic thread… But I really wanna know James! What is your Belt: Who’s your teacher: What’s the name of your club: Have you been to any competition: What discipline of Martial Arts do (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, you're right. My imprecision. What I meant was: "We are saying that morals do not apply to it." Mea culpa, mea culpa. James (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Uh, no, by the definitions you gave (and my understanding also) amoral does not specifically relate to _our_ (human) morals, but _any_ morals. (...) ROSCO (Never let it be said that *I* let this thread die!) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) Any film as a *true* representation of life? No. *A* representation of acts in real life interpreted by the director, producer, actors, etc.? Yes. (...) He never stated that films were an objective account of life, nor did I mean to imply that (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: FOTM/LOTM (Loss of the Month) Some thoughts...
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(...) Was that a question? In other words, are you asking *us* if *you* see it that way? How should we know what you think, if you don't know yourself? But let's assume it's a statement, since it's more likely that you're just challenged about when (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Something in the water where I work makes about 9 out of 10 people refer to something that is no longer relevant as a "mute point," but I'm usually silent on such matters. Dave! (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Survey methodology relating to latest LP SPAM
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(...) Why is it a moot point? (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Guns & crowbars & mace, oh my (was: not SPAM)
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(...) Around here, police officers have the option of carrying mace and/or pepper spray as a weapon, but if they choose to exercise that option, they must be willing to undergo the effects - in other words, they voluntarily get maced. James (who (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't want to make light of your experience (alright... I do, but it's only meant in jest), but isn't it usually the other way around? :-) (...) The macing was unfortunately an assault by a gang of kids at a pool hall one night. I should (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I see your crow-bar and raise you a gun (no I didn't get shot, but I did have a gas station attendant pull a gun on me (see (URL) and it's followups if you want to see the details). (...) I've never been maced thankfully, but having a gun (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't typically come down in complete agreement with Scott, but I must concur with him on this point. Does anyone of full mental capacity actually think that any film is a true representation of life? The entire process, from the formulation (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Does it have the capacity of a standard M1911A1? Where is it smaller -- barrel, mag, or width? Got URL? Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Dave Low wrote in message ... (...) of the (...) obvious (...) Indeed, and the gradient is not only mental/psychological but physical: there are an amazing number of medical conditions which fall outside traditionally physically male and (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pornography is just a graphical depiction of sex. Sex happens in real life. Violence happens in real life to varying degrees. Get threatened with a crow-bar, or get maced sometime. I feel that both are pretty violent and they have both (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) Let me back-track for a minute. I think I started down a different path than we were originally on. I think the government should reduce it's size period. It doesn't need to be as large as it is. Too much red tape already. That said, let's (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is *exactly* what we are doing when we say the lion is amoral. We are saying that our morals do not apply to it. That's where the breakdown in communication is happening. You appear to be operating with a different definition of "amoral" (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What is spam? (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment
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(...) I think he was referring to your efforts to veer the debate in an attempt to make First Amendment = Child Pornography. Granted, there's room for a .debate there, but that's not the crux of the matter (nor, technically, is it a problem with the (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) Why? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Irony (...) So the money should be spent regulating itself getting smaller? (...) We do not live there. How would you solve the problems in this world? (...) Is this the best you can do? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) Dave spotted it too: (URL) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Very interesting. I will have to read more about it and see how the story developes. I hadn't heard of the technique before, so I can't argue any points about it yet :-) -Duane (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This, for some reason reminded me of this: (URL) para: "In a country where 40m people have no health insurance, the Bush administration is planning to offer publicly funded medical coverage to foetuses, in a move which pro-choice activists (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Talk about up-to-the-minute. See these topics: (URL) I didn't want to weigh down this basically light-hearted discussion, but you (...) I agree (about being a drag etc). Still, I thought .debate was a good place for discussion of Adam's rib (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) Then I'm assuming that you've never had sex, or been in a fist-fight. (...) -Duane (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. Although not everyone has to. (...) How so? (...) By reducing itself (fat chance). (...) I said "idealistic world". (...) That's what education is for. (...) -Duane (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) One would expect not anyway: (URL) A (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What is spam? (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment
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(...) I do not think I have metioned child in this thread... but you are correct, I do not understand it. Do you support child pornography? What about child prositution? (...) Is this the best you can do? (...) Ah. It is my fault. I see. I should (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | XX rated technology
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(...) Not any more: (URL) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
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(...) I think we should not compare our morals with the lion’s decision making process. (...) i think "judge" is rather strong a word. (...) If they wanted you to - yes. (...) The consequence is that it annoys them. (...) Why do you neet motivation (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I did not see it when I read over the webpage the other day. None the less, I think that telephone surveys are not as good as the real thing. However, this is a moot point. (...) Hardly typical. Even if it was, it appears that I am not (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) "realities of life"? You think violence in movies and pornography represent the "realities of life"? It looks like my life is duller than I thought. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I did not see it when I read over the webpage the other day. None the less, I think that telephone surveys are not as good as the real thing. However, this is a moot point. (...) Hardly typical. Even if it was, it appears that I am not (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) So you think there is enough charity money out there for everyone to go cap-in-hand for a hand out? (...) Controversial (...) You said this before. I asked you where the money should be spent - I think you replied saying the government should (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: a semi-serious question
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(...) Snatching Duplo pieces directly from the clutches of little children is a poor idea because it gives them the idea that it is okay to grab pieces they need from the creations of others whenever they want (believe me, you'll be sorry later on (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | Separation of Church and State?
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(...) How about: (URL) you want your tax dollars going to a religious organization? -Duane (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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(...) Sterilization and sticking to the same gender (girls typically don't get girls pregnant, nor do boys typically get boys pregnant). (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What is spam? (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment
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(...) (sic) (...) Loss of first amendment rights (while the populace cheers on the loss) in the US *is* a real issue, whether you like it or not. In fact, whether you *understand* it or not, actually, since you have demonstrated with your slurring (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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