| | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Jake McKee
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| | (...) I for one would be interested to hear the details on this... neither Tomas or I are really sure what happened to cause this change. (...) This is extremely awkward. When I first came to LEGO, I actually asked Todd about getting a secondary (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct) !
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| | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Tim Courtney
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| | | | Jake McKee <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:GA91n9.735@lugnet.com... (...) to (...) This concerns me too, I'd appreciate knowing reasons for this change. I can understand confusing a lego.com address with an official post, and (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Mark Papenfuss
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| | | | | | (...) And a ROYAL pain in the rear - are we all to wade through the posts under the lugnet.lego to find the one post we are looking for? If they are talking about trains, masks, or whatever - then they should be able to post in that thread just like (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | (...) Maybe, as Frank Filz said elsewhere in this thread, it would be a good idea to keep the chatter in the lugnet.lego.* groups down. (...) It's not a matter of personal vs official posts, really. It's a matter of where LEGO is invited to (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Is it really a good thing if someone at TLC happens to have TLC records which allow them to answer one of the "Dear Gary" posts, and they are allowed to share that information, to not allow them to directly respond to the original question? (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) They can answer the question. They just can't answer it in a fan forum. Which *is* a good thing, because when you see it there will be no doubt that it is 100% Official LEGO position. (...) No, I am saying that I would prefer to see fans only (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Yes indeed. Of course it doesn't work 100% reliably (1), leaves no trace, and provides no opportunity for anyone else to comment, offer workarounds, etc. where that would be a helpful thing to do. Seriously... this blocking of posts to .admin (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) "That Larry guy, he just keeps trying to give money, I wish he'd go away." ;^) I've noticed the lost mail thing too, and the response rate. I remember he once said that he prioritized messages and replied to those, and still some got lost (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Hakan Tandogan
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Well, if that's the case, them I'm being ignored for wanting to give money away, too ;-) Or, at least, to get Todd to collect that 50$ I sent him half a year ago.... (...) Regards, Hakan (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) This HAS to be an oversight on Todd's part. I can't imagine he did that on purpose. So I wouldn't worry about it unless it stays that way. But it seems clear to me that Todd acted in haste for some reason, it's not like him to overlook a (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Mark Papenfuss
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Would that really happen? if this was the only place for them to answer questions, the mass amount of posts in this thread would be staggering. Plus, if they do answer a question there would be some follow-up in the direct thread - there would (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings William R. Ward
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| | | | | | | (...) If this policy is to continue, let me make another suggestion to help with this: there's always lugnet.lego.announce - encourage LEGO employees to post there. Todd, I think it was probably a bad idea to institute this policy without discussing (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) (Hey, I'm a technologist so I often propose technical solutions to social problems) How about a way from the web interface for members to have one of several precomposed sigs to choose from? That way when I am posting to make an official Guild (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | | (...) Only help for the web interface, though. What if they wanna post using e-mail or nntp? (...) ROSCO (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | (...) What may have confused people is if they were looking to some existing problem that this is supposed to be solving. It's actually not about solving a problem. It's about avoiding dilution of what the community is. LUGNET discussion groups were (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp) !!
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| | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) Note that I think this allows you to "change" an address but does not give you an easy way, from one browser, to create two posting identities (which both link to the same real human being, and which both clearly show a way to contact that (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Todd Lehman
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| | | | (...) Nothing really in particular. Yesterday's events were certainly a catalyst, however. (...) I filled out the news-posting setup form... (URL) for each of my email addresses, and then I change the setup in my newsreader (and then back again) if (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | (...) Could you please point in the direction of "yesterday's events"? I think I missed it, and I would like to see just what is being discussed here. Thanks, Fredrik (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | "Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:qrdae6mnom2.fsf....uio.no... (...) Take a day off and a brew-ha-ha erupts! I just read through the thread using this link: (URL) prefer a news reader interface but don't (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | (...) I just thought I'd point out Mike's post as something to consider. Mike has repeatedly mentioned to me that he likes to just stay clear of the pissing matches (which this could turn out to be one of the larger ones). I will contradict one (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | ME TOO Christian Gemünden
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| | | | | | | | (...) Usually, I am not the buy who steps in for a "mee too" (as this is mostly useless On Lugnet when talking about MOCs or new products. However, as this is a really important subject for the entire philosophy of Lugnet, I had to emphasize Mikes (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: ME TOO Mark Rideout
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Just to get my "vote" in, I want to say a "me too" to this as well. I believe it is not in my best interest to have this restriction in place. I think we should hear other (more) people's feelings on this as well. It is interesting that the (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: ME TOO Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | | (...) I have to put in a hearty 'mee too' with you, Christian. (...) Its lost value for me too. I prefer open communication, and not every post of theirs at a lego.com address outside of lego.* groups can be considered a marketing agenda. Give me a (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: ME TOO Tom Heverly
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| | | | | | | | I've been skimming the posts about this issue, and maybe I'm missing the point, but it seems to me that if LEGO didn't want its people posting on lugnet, they woud take care of that at lego. Often you hear about people workgin at such-and-such and (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: ME TOO Andrew Lipson
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| | | | | | | | ME TOO. The more postings from Lego employees anywhere on lugnet the better. Their signal to noise ratio is unusually good. (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Mike Faunce
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| | | | | | | (...) To further your own analogy: Why don't you use your work e-mail here? Probably because LUGNET is part of your "home life" and not your "work life". Your employeer may (or may not) want their name associated with LUGNET. Your employeer may even (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I don't think anyone has any issues with the desire to be clear about whether a post is personal opinion or an Offical Statement. But that can easily be done without restricting where posting happens, and in fact WAS being done, the T&C (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Mike Faunce
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem like that big a deal to change your e-mail address back and forth to indicate official vs personal. It's just as easy to do that as to include a disclaimer when posting personal items. But, truthfully, I (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | | | | "Mike Faunce" <mike@faunce.com> wrote in message news:GABnBu.GK5@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) [ ... snipped ... ] When I first participated in LUGNET I did use my work e-mail. I started using a different e-mail address because all (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Mike Faunce
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) But, they are different than most. Their work life and home life (assuming they are AFOLs) coincide. I guess I've been on the other side. In the last two jobs I've had, one of my employeement conditions was that I not use my work e-mail in (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Mark Papenfuss
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| | | | | | | | (...) OK, so this makes what - 3 people that *understand* this? Compared to the vast majority that do not *applaud* this action, hmmm. (...) So that makes this an un-official post and should we disregard it? You have *no* official capicity here in (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | | (...) I would not go assuming that. Just because the "vocal majority" does not like this right now does not mean that only 3 people agree with Todd. Remember one of the dynamics of Newsgroups is that people that disagree with a situation are much (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) True. We don't know the actual number of agree/disagree/undecided. Probably never will. My gut tells me more disagree, though, at least for now. Yours may differ. (people tend to think others agree with them) But irrelevant, ultimately. It's (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | (...) done to LEGO employees posting with their LEGO account, as far as I can see. I was interested in learning what "yesterday's event" was, which apparently triggered the above change. (...) So if I understand this correctly, the announcement of (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) "Yesterday" in this context is wednesday last, I think, as the filter was put in place Thursday, I think. I know for a fact that the train contest reminder was posted after the filter was put in place, based on correspondence. I speculate it (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) Exactly. The ultimate tipping point was the Bionicle thread on Thursday, but the tipping point isn't really relevant. Rather, it was a sudden realization based on recent events (not the events themselves) that we'd totally forgotten to put (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | | | | | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings Kyle D. Jackson
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| | | | (...) was a Good Thing. Particularly in light of some of the less than rosy incidents that have occurred between TLC and LUGNET in the past[1]. You are right that TLC is a company and the things they do are for business purposes, not primarily the (...) (24 years ago, 19-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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