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(...) I have to put in a hearty 'mee too' with you, Christian. (...) Its lost value for me too. I prefer open communication, and not every post of theirs at a lego.com address outside of lego.* groups can be considered a marketing agenda. Give me a (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) Just to get my "vote" in, I want to say a "me too" to this as well. I believe it is not in my best interest to have this restriction in place. I think we should hear other (more) people's feelings on this as well. It is interesting that the (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.general)
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| | Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings
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Here's a snippet from Todd's original post: (...) Something that Lego (TLC) did "made it apparent" that these boundaries needed to be reclarified. Well, no one in this thread, except Todd and maybe someone from TLC, knows what horrible thing (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Usually, I am not the buy who steps in for a "mee too" (as this is mostly useless On Lugnet when talking about MOCs or new products. However, as this is a really important subject for the entire philosophy of Lugnet, I had to emphasize Mikes (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | Re: LEGO Bionicle special offer
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(...) I just called LEGO Shop at Home and the rep who answered told me that the special offer in question is available to anyone, not just members of the LEGO Club. (...) feel I should point out that they're a little bit confused about which LEGO (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) So, Can we all take a look at the study you have done on all lego employees? I have yet to see any examples of how they clutter, dilute or otherwise do anything negative in any way. Jake is a fan, if I am not mistaken he is a member of Lugnet. (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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There seems to be some issue here. The Eric's (two of them) have posted elsewhere, and have been found to 'get it' by the admin-fig. The presence of TLC on lugnet has had some 'minor' positive effects. One case in point, that I doubt would have (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I just thought I'd point out Mike's post as something to consider. Mike has repeatedly mentioned to me that he likes to just stay clear of the pissing matches (which this could turn out to be one of the larger ones). I will contradict one (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) Well of your two choices I would say it's broken. Although I don't totally agree with that statement. Here is more info on Netscape 6... (URL) (...) Remember I am Eric, not Eric. I know its hard to tell the difference. Maybe I should adopt a (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Eric Kingsley writes: <snip NS 6 multiple identity info> Thanks for digging. Did you evaluate whether it shares "which threads and which messages have been read" across "identities"? If it does, it's broken and needs to be (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I know this isn't perfect but I would lit to make a suggestion. First changing setups for the web interface is a PITA, I agree with Larry on that. I did just try something using NNTP using Netscape 6 however that makes it very easy to do. In (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Have you actually tried this process to see what a PITA it is? I suspect not. Once you try it, consider what it would be like to have to do it several times a day or more. I doubt you've considered that either. Computers *exist* to make things (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) First, welcome to LUGNET!!! We really are a friendly bunch most of the time :-). As for your question I think I would say it is highly unlikely a vote would happen. LUGNET is privately owned by Todd Lehman and Suzanne Rich which means what (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) Well I may be mistaken but I think that Todd and Suz may feel a bit betrayed by LD. The one example that comes to mind is the T-Shirt Thread. (URL) a few months later got to this response from LD: (URL) I think Got Suzanne upset: (URL) you (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: Why do Lego rip off UK customers ?
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Not only that, Its getting v. difficult to get Lego in the UK now. Big stores only stock a few lines. Why do the Americans get privaliged sets. Does it cost to much to release the same set in the US and Europe. why do I have to import (castle) sets (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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Just to add another point: I don't usually read LUGNET postings off the web site, but get some of the groups as daily email digests. I like seeing announcements for limited items at LSAHS in the market newsgroup. But now, I will never see these (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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"Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:qrdae6mnom2.fsf....uio.no... (...) Take a day off and a brew-ha-ha erupts! I just read through the thread using this link: (URL) prefer a news reader interface but don't (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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I'm quite new to the Lugnet community so I'm not up on structure and procedure, (I didn't know Lego were active participents) but this is obviously a topic that has got a lot of people going. would a vote be possible in a case like this where (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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I am as bewildered as anyone else here..... I thought that there wasn't enough interaction between LD and LUGNET as it is. And I certainly would like someplace within LUGNET where we (LUGNET folks) could interact freely with TLC in a total forum, (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) theme (...) I'm certainly confused. A few months ago people were citing the Cluetrain Manifesto and begging for LEGO to talk to us. Now we want to box them into one little space on LUGNET because all LEGO wants is (gasp!) money. I certainly (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: an idea for lego: A set design contest
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If they would put the designers name on it, I think it might get folks to be more willing to submit some of their best designs. I think that sometimes recognition is as important an enticement as monetary rewards would be. Gary Istok (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Well, if that's the case, them I'm being ignored for wanting to give money away, too ;-) Or, at least, to get Todd to collect that 50$ I sent him half a year ago.... (...) Regards, Hakan (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) That's a curious way of phrasing it. I'll assume you just chose poorly. But to clarify, this wasn't a suggestion I made, or in any way my idea- it took me as much by surprise as everyone else. I just happen to think it was a *good* idea. So, (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) As the other Eric posting to this thread, I can say that I certainly don't want LEGO to go away, either! I'm very glad they want to participate in Lugnet, and I'm very happy that they want to announce special deals and sales... but I'm also (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) Sorry Todd, but you seem to say that in a negative tone and I don't see a reason for that! We all know that LEGO is a company and therefor wants to make money [1]. But what's wrong with that? Remember that LU(gnet) is a place for LEGO USERS so (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Could you please point in the direction of "yesterday's events"? I think I missed it, and I would like to see just what is being discussed here. Thanks, Fredrik (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Nothing really in particular. Yesterday's events were certainly a catalyst, however. (...) I filled out the news-posting setup form... (URL) for each of my email addresses, and then I change the setup in my newsreader (and then back again) if (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) This is a little ironic. For years the community tried to get TLC involved and to participate and now it's trying to keep them out. There has to be a reason for this which we (the end-users of Lugnet) will most likely never know. I sort of (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) (URL) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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Yep, its a me too post. I couldn't have said it better than Frank. I think that stuff like S@H announcements, and the DYA example, suggests a double standard. Unless, I am misunderstanding something... -Tim Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote in (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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First, I want to say I may regret replying to this post, I see everybody has left it alone so far - its kinda scary being the one breaking the ice, lol. In lugnet.lego.direct, Todd Lehman writes: <snip> (...) I personally do not think they would (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) But still, they are not trying to sell us anything - and they do not have to try to sell us anything, we buy Lego no matter what. this goes to whats below also. (...) Do you want them to go bankrupt? I know it will never happen - That is the (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) So you would prefer to hear about the Fort Legoredo's from some AFOL posting that he just found out that S@H got a bunch in and he just bought them all? What is different from Brad telling us "hey Shop at Home got this pile of nice sets" and a (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) That explicit statement may have been Mark's straw man rather than a real statement, but I got that implication from things that have been said here. (...) One man's trash is another man's treasure. I didn't see all of those posts as clutter. (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) A very brief response -- I'm still digesting all this. I agree concerning contests, sale items etc. I think the matter of the Bionicle masks is a little different. Tomas Clark responded to direct questions/speculation from fans. This was (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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(...) No one said that they cluttered up threads. They do have the ability to clutter up newsgroups, however: (URL) posts to lugnet.general and lugnet.dear-lego. I'd rather not have to wade through these kinds of posts to see MOCs, etc. eric (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I think Todd explained things pretty well here: (URL) if you want my *personal* reasons to know what "my point" was I will tell you. 1. Time = Money The time I have to dedicate to reading LUGNET is somewhat limited. I am not interested in what (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | why are the TLC/LD contests US only?
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Can someone please explain why only people from the US can enter contest run by TLC/LD? I would imagine that if TLC/:LD could allow anyone to enter they would so why cant they? Does it have something to do with the laws that govern how these sorts (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | an idea for lego: A set design contest
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Here is basicly how it would work. Lego would: 1.set constraints on the design (size, number of pieces, theme etc) and 2.would provide a list of "approved" pieces that can be used in the design (which would be a "cut down" version of the master list (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) What may have confused people is if they were looking to some existing problem that this is supposed to be solving. It's actually not about solving a problem. It's about avoiding dilution of what the community is. LUGNET discussion groups were (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp) !!
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