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Subject:	What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
Newsgroups:	lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:42:23 GMT
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Hello! A few minutes ago I stumbled accross this folder: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=95264 Description: "aircraft of the new german reich" Following the Up button in the folder thread I also found this: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=82222 "vehicles of Vereinigte Faschistische Staaten des Neues Reichs" And I wonder: What on earth do moderators on BrickShelf think when they pass something like this? Well, of course those galleries are "safe for kids" since there is no nudity included... But such Nazi-romanticism is not safe for adults at all. Believe me. There are more than enough idiots in Germany and maybe elsewhere as well who wish back a "New (German) Reich". But the old German Reich is nothing a reasonable person would ever romanticise about. Only war-glorifying lunatics and moronic racists would deny the appaling facts of the gone fascistic German Reich and make fun about it or portray it in toys. Unless they make an aestheticised statement _against_ war and fascism that is. (Like that Polish artist did with the KZ sets made of LEGO bricks a few years ago. He is not a fascist of course.) Besides this the clause "vehicles of Vereinigte Faschistische Staaten des Neues Reichs" is grammatically incorrect. So, to cut a long story short: I'm totally against the censorship thing on BrickShelf. In cases like this, though, as we have the moderators anyway, they should act responsible and not pass every crap just because it's "safe for kids". Bye Jojo If anybody cares about my post and wish to reply they may set FUT what newsgroup they think is appropriate.

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		Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
(...) (SNIP of some very good observations) (...) I suppose a good translation for us non-germans might be in order ;) ~Kevin Kevoh Kevvy Blocksidge (20 years ago, 18-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
FUT: lugnet.off-topic.debate "Johannes 'Jojo' Koehler" <chutspe@gmx.net> wrote in message news:I2ntIn.1F7H@lugnet.com... (...) Talk about a slippery slope... There are a lot of people who think Nazi uniforms, logos, designs, and equipment were (...) (20 years ago, 18-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
(...) Johannes, I agree whole-heartedly with you. It's amazing that the moderators would let something like this pass. I'm always appalled by how ignorant and insensitive some people are, especially about something as well documented as WWII. If (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

		Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
(...) Well... I have terrorist minifigs as the Global Islamic Liberation Front. (URL) terrorism is not "romanticized" as they tend to get butt-kicked by the Chinese like here... (also my super-tank is bullying that dark gray Panzer) hehe. (URL) not (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
(...) There is a bunch of this kind of thing in .space too. (URL) are some more questions to ponder: - are the Brickshelf pics glorifying Nazism, parodying Nazism, or drawing on the Nazi aesthetic for ideas - or something else? - is the .space Iron (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.space)

		Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
"Johannes 'Jojo' Koehler" <chutspe@gmx.net> wrote in message news:I2ntIn.1F7H@lugnet.com... (...) pass (...) since (...) There was a first and second reich that had nothing to do with Nazi's. There is no Nazi insignia or imagery. I can fully (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
(...) Or George Lucas, whose Imperial forces uniforms (and names - stormtroopers) are pretty clearly inspired by Nazi imagery. Which then carry through to standard Lego sets... Talk about slippery slopes... (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
(...) Yes, I'm a lurker, but I decided to throw in my two cents on this considering I'm fluent in German (and am actually posting from Berlin right now). For all you non-German speakers "Vereinigte Staaten" is German for the United States. (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
(...) Simply put: The job of the moderators is not to expunge content YOU may find politically inappropriate or in poor taste. They merely enforce the content and usage guidelines set forth by BrickShelf. As for the "Iron Reich" glorifying Nazism, (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
(...) It's hard to say on the face of it. The person might be just indulging in a typical historical "what if" scenario. Does it trivialize what happened? Not necessarily. Then again, he/she/it may be looking for DNA material to clone Hitler with (...) (20 years ago, 6-Sep-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
(...) Well, this is quite the discussion, isn't it? Seeing this post, and the link to that Brickshelf gallery, I feel compelled to shed some light on the whole situation of the builder. That gallery belongs to my friend, Eric Anger. The models he's (...) (20 years ago, 7-Sep-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

		Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
(...) I know this is a kind of dead topic, but I was watching the AFI Top 100 movie songs and I just had to juxtapose the statement above and the Mel Brooks' satirical song meant to be the ultimate in bad taste: Springtime for Hitler Germany was (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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