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I just had a brief chat with a German co-AFOL (named Juergen), who deleted all his pictures in his Brickshelf galleries in a very angry mood some hours before..... What happened? Someone with admins-rights at Brickshelf deleted the 'me-picture' of (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general) !!
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A discussion between my and a moderator about a questionable pic... (...) Do we forget KIDS like Lego toys too? I was sharing my adult version of this hobby with my young cousin, while being overlooked by my uncle. I was showing off the recent (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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In the post to which I am responding, I am unable to follow who is asserting what point. But in any case, what's wrong with any of the pictures -- whether shirts, model guns, or in-game explosions? I hope that it is _not_ Kevin's goal to make the (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I'd just like to add that that's my favourite style of t-shirt, body one colour, arms another. Steve (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) whether (...) way (...) Hi Chris If a picture of an AFOL is named 'me', it is quite self-explaining, it shows an AFOL. And an AFOL is (at least in my eyes) Lego-related and on-topic. Juergen may not look like Claudia Schiffer, but he was not (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Yah, OK. I guess I agree. I wonder what Kevin's stance on pictures like that actually is. It does seem reasonable to have a single smallish picture of an AFOL among the other images. But really, we don't (at least, I don't) know the whole (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Just our of curiosity, I checked my own "me" image at BS. And it's still there! But then again, it has a LEGO related background, so that may explain why it's still online. Fredrik (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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I'd like to add a new topic to this discussion and to add my comments. I've started work on a train layout design for our club so I'm constantly updating photos in my layout folder. Now everytime I upload a photo, the folder becomes private and no (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) One suggestion would be to make a new folder each time. That way when you put up new content, the old folders will still be accessible. You could have a main folder named "Layout" and then subfolders named "Update August 10, 2002", "Update (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Just a question here, what in a sense makes a picture of a lego fan "questionable" to the lego community? Yes, I could understand if a picture had pornography (god forbid), or an explicitely violent or suggestive scene, but photos? If this is (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I don't remember deleting anything on Brickshelf in the past week or so. Maybe something else happened? If it's just a picture of a LEGO fan, then why not upload it again? In any case it sounds like an major overreaction to whatever did (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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I've been trying very hard not to reply to these posts but I think I have waited long enough. There are many angles to look at this: #1 In the last year there has been ALOT of pictures to me that have nothing to do with Lego. ranging from pictures (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Hear, Hear!! It's nice to have, but it's not like we have a RIGHT to post anything. This is a free service...I'm thankful it's there, because I couldn't do it any better myself. If you can, good for you. But in the meantime, I'm glad to have a (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Not necessarily, so relax. All you need to do is deep link to the actual .jpg (or whatever), and people will be able to see it instantly. And keep repeating to yourself, "Brickshelf is a free service, and I'm *lucky* to have it". Leg Godt, (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) not shooting out the window. I removed the picture there and from my own pages. I knows that many people are sensitive over weapons. I personally have never owned a real gun or ever will. Why make one from LEGO? I was saving the engines found (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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I'm a little confused here. In what way is that picture of a woman in a lego t-shirt a 'sex' picture? Yikes, is this what it's coming too? The lunatic fringe? Kevin, I do not envy you your task. But I do appreciate your effort. Ken (...) - (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) [snip] (...) Thanks a lot for that info, Kevin! I myself really appreciate brickshelf and all the offered service, but maybe you could give a written guideline, what content is topic, what is offtopic and what is not permitted (due to none (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Ummmm....How can we even be sure that is a woman? It could be a man with a medical condition. I know a guy like that... (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) ??? Um, *not* a picture of a woman, but a picture of a woman's *chest*. Think to yourself: Would Kevin have censored it if the woman's head were included in the picture? Would Kevin have censored it if the picture were focused entirely upon (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I do see the T-shirt, not the chest. (...) Or maybe a fertile immagination? (...) Or reality? Is it possible that you might have found something central in the pic, that was probably not? I mean, I actually found it funny: what is "seen" in (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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I completely agree with you. to me brickshelf is a place where people show off their cities, of spaceships. I only saw violent pictures when I was reading a lugnet post about a brikwars game. THIS IS SICK. If you have pictures like this, either keep (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I don't see what the big deal is. Personally I like the guns and depictions of violence and bloodshed. But maybe that's just me. Also, I suppose I should go ahead and delete my entire brickshelf folder, since most everything in it is too blury (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) This is a REALLY funny thread. I can barely figure out what people are arguing for or against any longer... BTW, this image was not removed -- if it had been, we wouldn't all be able to see it for ourselves and pass our own stupid judgments (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I'd rather see some good ole' plastic violence than sombodys mugshot. Lighten up Ben, Brickshelf rocks, and your buddy's problem was probably just an innocent mistake. Keith(A simulated-violence loving (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Anyone that actually finds that picture offensive should have their head examined. Just remember, you are all victims of your own imaginations. -Mike Petrucelli (Then again I am still trying to figure out what kind of whack job would find J.D. (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Actually, someone who finds that picture offensive may have nothing at all wrong with his or her head other than another point of view. For example, from a feminist perspective it could be argued that the image is offensive because it (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Then may I recommend Cormac McCarthy's uplifting "Blood Meridian" as a purgative? Guaranteed to eclipse all teeth from the sidewalks of your imagination! Dave! (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Actually, my perspective was pretty much the same one you elucidated, Maggie. I am not a feminist nor do I *personally* find it offensive, but I can sure see without much argument how someone could (especially when surfing with young kids) I (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I do not like censorship in general: the freedom of speach is a really worthful thing! But some censorship might be needed in any kind of public announcement-board. I have no problems with 'bad taste' pictures on a private homepage. But total (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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I’ll be moving this to .off-topic simply because I don’t want to bog down the other groups. Although, I think this may be a relevant topic for any AFOL who visits Lugnet and sites like it. I’m not trying to beat any dead horses (as I recognized the (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.general, John P. Henderson writes: [snip] (...) I disagree strongly here. It is what it is. The is no collective decision making about how we 'want to be' - it will be what individuals make it. (...) The community may be a seperate entity, (...) (22 years ago, 5-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<some snippage here> (...) As you say, it is how we over here appear to you. The portrayal of these instances by the media over there plays them up so much that one would almost think it is a regular occurance. The American media is just as bad if (...) (22 years ago, 5-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Well, I never went on a shooting spree, but as a teen I did behave irresponsibly with guns (by the standards that most people express). And they weren't the .22 rifle that my dad had in his closet. They were used and probably stolen guns that (...) (22 years ago, 5-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) who (...) Interesting - and scary. (...) It was my contention that the reported shooting sprees (that I recall) were by teenagers who had access to guns at home (and some experience with them). Not sure of the causal connection, if any, (...) (22 years ago, 5-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Want it to be" or "Make it be", I think this may be semantics. Either way, my point is that this is an established (yet evolving) community that currently accepts among its members both people who may dislike certain content and those who may (...) (22 years ago, 5-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would think that if the parents were doing their job, it would be quite the opposite. By doing their job, I mean being responsible. If you have a gun in your home, it is your responsibility as a parent to educate your children in its proper (...) (22 years ago, 5-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think some people are way too overly sensitive to the weapons issue, and I have debated this before. In fact, I could remember one such instance in the past when someone made a lego "baretta pistol" and there was no debate or critizism on (...) (22 years ago, 7-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
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(...) (Even (...) news: (...) So a logical and 'common sense' statement is grounds for the liberal brain washers to harass you. It really bothers me to hear you say that you do not wish to present a well thought out opinion because of them. That is (...) (22 years ago, 8-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [Big-Snip] (...) The modern educational system has a hundred years of programming to produce people who, like machine parts, are relatively interchangeable. One of the worst things that a school-based authority can have to deal with is a puple (...) (22 years ago, 8-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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