To LUGNET HomepageTo LUGNET News HomepageTo LUGNET Guide Homepage
 Help on Searching
 
Post new message to lugnet.off-topic.debateOpen lugnet.off-topic.debate in your NNTP NewsreaderTo LUGNET News Traffic PageSign In (Members)
 Off-Topic / Debate / 17489
17488  |  17490
Subject: 
Re: Guns! (was: Thoughts on Community & Censorship (Was: Re: Brickshelf censorship policy rules.....))
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:16:22 GMT
Viewed: 
1668 times
  
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richie Dulin writes:
> > In lugnet.general, John P. Henderson writes:
> 
> > > Teach them the difference between playfully sneaking
> > > around the woods versus actually watching your friends getting killed.  If
> > > you just say "don’t touch guns" guess what might happen when they reach the
> > > rebellious or curious stages of their lives?  Bang.  Bang.
> > 
> > A nice thought.... but I don't recall any incident of someone without a gun
> > using backround/parent reaching a 'rebellious or curious' stage in their
> > life and suddenly somehow getting hold of a firearm and going on a shooting
> > rampage.
> > 
> > I could be wrong, though... do you have a specific example?
> 
> Well, I never went on a shooting spree, but as a teen I did behave
> irresponsibly with guns (by the standards that most people express).  And they
> weren't the .22 rifle that my dad had in his closet.  They were used and
> probably stolen guns that I obtained through a network of other kids in a
> "rebellious or curious stage."
> 
> So I knew lots and lots of other teens who possessed their own handguns but • who
> didn't have parents with guns.

Interesting - and scary.

> Was it your contention that only kids who have gun-owning parents get guns, or
> that only kids with gun-owning parents go on shooting sprees?  And in either
> case, what do you supposed the causal connection is?

It was my contention that the reported shooting sprees (that I recall) were by
teenagers who had access to guns at home (and some experience with them).

Not sure of the causal connection, if any, excepting the (possibly) easier
availability of guns for the rampage.

And there are probably much better indicators of rampage prone-ness other than
the availability of guns.

Cheers

Richie Dulin



Message is in Reply To:
  Guns! (was: Thoughts on Community & Censorship (Was: Re: Brickshelf censorship policy rules.....))
 
(...) Well, I never went on a shooting spree, but as a teen I did behave irresponsibly with guns (by the standards that most people express). And they weren't the .22 rifle that my dad had in his closet. They were used and probably stolen guns that (...) (24 years ago, 5-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

39 Messages in This Thread:


















Entire Thread on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact
    

©2005 LUGNET. All rights reserved. - hosted by steinbruch.info GbR