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Re: Brickshelf censorship policy rules.....
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Mon, 2 Sep 2002 18:36:46 GMT
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A discussion between my and a moderator about a questionable pic...

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Kevin Loch wrote:
Jeremy Scott wrote:
I don't agree with this passing moderation.  I don't know if it was you
or who moderated this or someone else but please reconsider.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=227890

Jeremy Scott

I moderated it ok.  What's wrong with it?

Do we forget KIDS like Lego toys too?  I was sharing my adult version of
this hobby with my young cousin, while being overlooked by my uncle. I was
showing off the recent folders on B-Shelf.  My Uncle wasn't happy when we
came across that picture.  He saw it as a sex picture rather than a picture
regarding Legos.  I don't agree with it passing moderation, so I thought I
should bring this to your attention.  Wasn't the reason B-Shelf started to
moderate was to make sure all the stuff on the site was acceptable for all
ages?  Haven't pictures of an even less questionable nature been deleted?

I don't mind what the final outcome of this is, my cousin is gone, but that
is not to say Joe Bloe's cousin isn't looking right now...

Jeremy Scott

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To me this clearly says that there are no rules to moderation and when there
is a question about content, the admin don't care.

Take this as you will...

Jeremy Scott

In lugnet.general, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
I just had a brief chat with a German co-AFOL (named Juergen), who deleted all
his pictures in his Brickshelf galleries in a very angry mood some hours
before.....

What happened? Someone with admins-rights at Brickshelf deleted the
'me-picture' of Juergen. Is a picture of a Lego-Fan really too off-topic to be
published in the main folder of a personnal brickshelf gallery?

I know, Brickshelf is a no-cost-offer and so we might be not in a position to
demand anything, but I wanted to share this info: Juergen leaves the
brickshelf from now on, and this really concerns me. Our never too big
community of AFOLs looses more and more fans that are fed up with the
community.

I realized this at lugnet as well as on the 1000steine.de board. Lots of
people move back into just private channels of e-mail. And with this movement
of lots of interesting discussions into none-public parts of the net we all
loose some interesting aspects of our hobby. That's really bad.

In the case of Juergen, he left a very emotional text on brickshelf, that
possibly never might get published. So I wanted to give here the direct link
to it. I think this is worth to be overthought:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/JuergenL/DELETED/explan.txt

I myself have to agree with Juergen: I do not understand, why a picture of a
Lego-Fan gets deleted in brickshelf, while really bad pictures are published
without any problems as it seems.

I think the picture of a gunman that shoots cowardly from a window to the
street is by far more than just a sign of 'bad taste'.
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/DeAlynn/IAC/shotgunhold.jpg

This picture is proof for the fact, that some kind of censorship is a must
have, but I think the rules of censorship at brickshelf are still something
that needs to be discussed.

Leg Godt!

Ben



Message has 7 Replies:
  Re: Brickshelf censorship policy rules.....
 
In the post to which I am responding, I am unable to follow who is asserting what point. But in any case, what's wrong with any of the pictures -- whether shirts, model guns, or in-game explosions? I hope that it is _not_ Kevin's goal to make the (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Brickshelf censorship policy rules.....
 
(...) I'd just like to add that that's my favourite style of t-shirt, body one colour, arms another. Steve (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Brickshelf censorship policy rules.....
 
I'd like to add a new topic to this discussion and to add my comments. I've started work on a train layout design for our club so I'm constantly updating photos in my layout folder. Now everytime I upload a photo, the folder becomes private and no (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Brickshelf censorship policy rules.....
 
(...) Just a question here, what in a sense makes a picture of a lego fan "questionable" to the lego community? Yes, I could understand if a picture had pornography (god forbid), or an explicitely violent or suggestive scene, but photos? If this is (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)  
  Re: Brickshelf censorship policy rules.....
 
I've been trying very hard not to reply to these posts but I think I have waited long enough. There are many angles to look at this: #1 In the last year there has been ALOT of pictures to me that have nothing to do with Lego. ranging from pictures (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)  
  Re: Brickshelf censorship policy rules.....
 
I'm a little confused here. In what way is that picture of a woman in a lego t-shirt a 'sex' picture? Yikes, is this what it's coming too? The lunatic fringe? Kevin, I do not envy you your task. But I do appreciate your effort. Ken (...) - (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Brickshelf censorship policy rules.....
 
(...) Anyone that actually finds that picture offensive should have their head examined. Just remember, you are all victims of your own imaginations. -Mike Petrucelli (Then again I am still trying to figure out what kind of whack job would find J.D. (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.general)

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  Brickshelf censorship policy rules.....
 
I just had a brief chat with a German co-AFOL (named Juergen), who deleted all his pictures in his Brickshelf galleries in a very angry mood some hours before..... What happened? Someone with admins-rights at Brickshelf deleted the 'me-picture' of (...) (22 years ago, 2-Sep-02, to lugnet.general) !! 

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