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| | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Matthew Gerber
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| | | | (...) From Dictionary.com: col·lec·tor (k-lktr) n. 1. One that collects: a solar energy collector; a dust collector. 2. A person employed to collect taxes, duties, or other payments. 3. A person who makes a collection, as of stamps. 4. An electrode (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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| | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Kirby Warden
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| | | | | dude...you just suckered me into a debate! But that's ok, let's see if I can score a couple of points for myself... A collector is a person who collects... well gee...you've successfully defined what a collector is. Now how about defining what it (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Matthew Gerber
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| | | | | | | (...) Sorry, not my intent...just adding the missing dictionary definitions. (...) Complaints can be forwarded to: -The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Matthew Gerber
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| | | | | | (...) Again, from Dictionary.com: col·lect1 (k-lkt) v. col·lect·ed, col·lect·ing, col·lects v. tr. 1. To bring together in a group or mass; gather. 2. To accumulate as a hobby or for study. 3. To call for and obtain payment of: collect taxes. 4. To (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Kirby Warden
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| | | | | | | Yup that's pretty much what I said earlier, thanks :^) (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | (...) And this right here is my point of contention. My hobby is not to collect LEGO bricks. My hobby is Building. My collection is merely a side effect of the necessity for having LEGO bricks with which to build. You wouldn't call a home builder a (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Eric Sophie
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| | | | Thanks for the effort, but this is part of Lugnet's problem. We don't need to be so specific, we don't need to define ourselves. We know what we do. Let's be careful not allow a post to begin making us go crazy. Were into Lego. Period. You want to (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Matthew Gerber
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| | | | | (...) BINGO! My post here: (URL) to de-bunk the whole issue in the first place. Lets NOT be branded anything, if we can help it. (...) Not a prob' Eric, Just keeping my title intact. 8?) (...) Ok! Matt (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Eric Sophie
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| | | | | | Aww excellent were on the same page. Keeping what we like as "LegoHeads" from being branded is one thing and it's good. I think Also, LD has to focus on what it percieves as a selling base. So all peoples are going to be fragmented and assingned in (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Matthew Gerber
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| | | | | | (...) You sound like your head is hurting about as much as mine...I'll get you a cool washcloth if you'll fetch the asprin...8?) Matt (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Kirby Warden
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| | | | (...) <snip> (...) <snip> Sooooo, what are you saying...we should all remain ignorant and let somebody else define things for us? I was merely trying to correct the method that was being used to define a collector. To say that a collector is simply (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Matthew Gerber
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| | | | | (...) Right. Obviously 'collector' will mean different things to different folks...SO WHAT? We are all entitled to our own opinion of who we are, and how we view ourselves in the 'collector' world. Me, a builder-I build by the instructions once, (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) Note where my message is on the tree - I hadn't read the "cites" I anticipated someone would use at that point. The dictionary terms don't really apply to the "collectable toy" market, which is what is really being debated (anything else is a (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Eric Sophie
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| | | | | | (...) ----In the sense that it isn't easy or TLC never made it easy to collect Lego, I agree. Eric (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) No, in the sense of what makes something a good collectable. That is usually uniqueness and to some degree, scarcity. Unless there is a specific unique part in the set, Lego rates real low on that scale (primarily the box). You can find any (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Eric Sophie
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| | | | | | Nevermind, because you don't hold Lego in high regard. It is a good collectable. Your not winning any admiration here by saying that it's not. Perhaps you have'nt seen my Creations. www.brickshelf.com/c...Legomaster Also, your forgetting that every (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | (...) Why do you say this? Because Bruce doesn't have the same opinion as you? (...) What do your creations have to do with the debate at hand? (...) Um, what? (...) What does this have to do with anything? How does one person's creations and the (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Eric Sophie
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| | | | | | | | ----See below (...) ----I guess it bothered me that he said Lego isn't a good collectible, if his opinion is different I guess I should'nt slam him, infact I do respect his opinion. (...) ----Ahhh nothing, I know it's wrong to do that.....sorry (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | | | See below too! :) (...) I think it was a basic misunderstanding of what Bruce (who, trust me, holds LEGO in a regard few can hold higher) meant by "not a good collectible." You focussed on it as though he meant that it's not good; he meant that (...) (23 years ago, 13-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) I hold Lego in extremely high regard - you are confusing an honest analysis of Lego on the "collectable toy market" with a derogatory attack. That Lego makes a poor "collectable" is a *good* thing, in my opinion. You need to go back and (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | | (...) Great point! From a LEGO builder's point of view, I look at unopened or unused LEGO as a waste of fun, creative and exciting possibilities! I think Eric slightly overdid it in his last post by calling Bruce out, as if creativity makes a (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Why *side* with either? Why are there sides *at all* for that matter? That is what is baffling me. This isn't a territorial war, is it? Both "sides" can "win", can't they? I'm a builder AND a collector and there is nothing wrong with being (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Eric Sophie
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| | | | | | | | | That's good, I can go with that... Eric (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —James Brown
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Absolutely correct. As you're fond of saying, this is a big tent, with room for all. However, and I think this is Dan's point, between hard-core builders and hard-core collectors, there is a significant paradigm shift. To me (and I suspect Dan (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'll do as I please. If you want an explanation, here it is: Anyone with enough money can collect LEGOs. There's no talent or creativity involved. There's no artistry, skill or vision either. Collection is consumption. Consumption doesn't earn (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) As you should. I asked in order to try to understand, not challenge, your view. <snip elaboration> Thanks. Helpful. (...) I did say it, but not just to you, rather to all who read here. I'll say it again... Welcome all who come, whatever their (...) (23 years ago, 13-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'm glad my "elaboration" was helpful, and I hope I am clear now. <snipped discussion> (...) Sounds good to me, but why do you feel it is necessary to repeat yourself? Are you sure you are not addressing me? Have I mocked someone or done (...) (23 years ago, 13-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) You said "whatever", suggesting that you didn't agree. I restated it in hopes that you would clarify if you do or don't agree that inclusiveness is good. (...) Not that you disagree with what? (...) Great, (aside from the loaded words) but I (...) (23 years ago, 13-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | | | (...) I said "whatever" because I sensed you had more to say on the matter, which you obviously do. Did I not say "everyone has their thing" and for collectors "to collect away and enjoy their collection"? How much more inclusive would you like me (...) (23 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | | | | TYPO IN MY PREVIOUS POST, PLEASE CORRECT: (...) I meant "I did NOT call LEGO collectors...etc" I mistakenly left out the NOT in that sentence. Let it be clear that I did NOT call LEGO collectors materialistic, greedy or immoral. Dan (23 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Thanks for that clarification. Rephrasing it, what I see you saying is that you're never wrong about anything, or at least never willing to admit it, and that you never misstate anything, or at least never see any need to ever correct anything (...) (23 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | | | (...) 100% pure bullsh*t my friend, but you will think as you wish. By rephrasing it, you changed the meaning for your selfish purposes, not for the greater need of understanding. If you were intent on understanding, you wouldn't throw in the little (...) (23 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Eric Sophie
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| | | | | | Hey that's cool Bruce, I got a little out of hand, I re-read the thread and I hear where your comming from, I ussually don't get like that on Lugnet, sorry. You rasied some good points, I hope people can appreciate this as I did. I'm 30, so I feel (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) Alright, a little overzealous, but I can live with that. We be cool then. Bruce (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Eric Sophie
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| | | | | | | Thanks Bruce, it's better to understand each other....right on. Eric (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Eric Sophie
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| | | | | | | Thanks Bruce, it's better to understand each other....right on. Eric (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We may all be Lego collectors, but Lego isn't a Beanie-Baby style collectable —Eric Sophie
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| | | | | | Thanks Bruce, it's better to understand each other....right on. Eric (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Misnomer: we are all Lego collectors! —Eric Sophie
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| | | | (...) ----Hold it right there. I step aside for that. Your absolutely right. (...) ----ok, no biggie. (...) -----dude, com'on (...) ----right on, me too (...) ---Thanks Kirby -----Yes, a natural evolution of a successful product will bring these (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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