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I feel that we should wrap up plans on OMR submission and storage so we can get the structure in place to begin accepting models on the OMR itself. First off, PLEASE DO NOT email me your submissions to the OMR. As of now I am not officially (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:4.2.0.58.199907...omm.com... (...) We might as well use models.sets for this, and just have authors include "OMR" in the subject header. This will avoid the confusion that would come with two (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Though 'OMR' would denote a submission to the OMR, etc, it would be better to have a separate group so there is absolutely no question what is a submission and what is not. All we need is for an editor to pick up a non-submitted model that (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) What's the qualitative difference between a separate group and simply putting "OMR" or "OMR Submission" in the subject line? And if there _were_ a separate OMR group, then to keep the hierarchy consistent and clean, it would have to go beneath (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) How about two versions: 1. Follows exactly the instructions (Only substeps are submodels) 2. Modelling Version (Only moveable parts are submodels) Jeff (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Good idea. So I take it someone who submits a model specifies which it is, and they also get to choose which version they model. But what if we have too much of one type, and want to balance it out? Should they be required to do both? And the (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) cad.dat.models.omr) will (...) and it will also (...) authors include (...) search multiple (...) would be better (...) what is a (...) pick up a (...) and get the (...) need flamewars (...) Like Todd said, I think 'OMR SUBMISSION set XXXX' (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:4.2.0.58.199907...omm.com... (...) No. If it's unbalanced, so what? The main advantages of .dat files of official models will be present for either version: the ability to view a model from any (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:4.2.0.58.199907...omm.com... (...) Submodels used for ease of ldrawing may certainly be inlined. Also, I would suggest that we not make the subfile structure a requirement, but a "strong (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) But having its own group, even under cad.dat.models.sets, would save model editors time by not having to browse headers. And additional features could possibly be integrated into an OMR specific group, like marking a message approved or (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Ok... (...) Heh... would be nice, but that's one of the little features I haven't been able to figure out yet in my pea-sized brain :) I'm sure not everyone else has either. Could that be one of the model editors' things to do?? -Tim <>< (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) probably (...) save model (...) features (...) marking a (...) free the (...) I agree that a whole new newsgroup would be best, but I was just trying to point out that it would probably work. Not a big deal either way as far as I am concerned. (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) of rotation. (...) haven't been (...) everyone else (...) do?? (...) Just how do you center it on the hinge part of a 1x2 hinge plate (:-I I have yet to figure out how to do that, so I guess that means I've got a pea-sized brain too. :) Ryan (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Yes. Those that are non-instruction submodels but purely for ease of modelling are definitely acceptable. (I gotta remember to throw that one in the creation/submission guide) (...) Good thoughts. I would say that the models which do not (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) So do I. But I probably wouldn't subscribe to a sets or omr newsgroup by mail. It would work, but why not avoid possible confusion and go for 100% certainty on a completely new dedicated newsgroup? Some people might think that (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Searching through a potential lot of messages for the word 'OMR.' (...) But posting a submission to an OMR group and casually posting to a sets group are in fact different. One there is strict requirements for, the other there isn't. So it (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) If you mean 2429/2430, it's already centered! If you mean 4275/4276, you can use the method outlined in my LDraw Tutorial, using light.dat as a place-holder for the origin (0,0,0). You'll have to look at a couple different views to make sure (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) So basically no difference, really. That is, you can visually scan a hundred messages for "OMR" in a second or two -- or even faster with a script -- but where 99.9% of the time goes is verifying the quality of the model. So pulling down 5 new (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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At 10:40 PM 7/22/99 , Todd Lehman wrote: [...] snippety snip (...) Right.. (...) Now that's making sense. I was following the assumption that nothing would change on cad.dat.models.sets and OMR submissions would be *allowed* there. Could we change (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Certainly! (...) Heck, I sure don't think so. The .dat.models.sets group was intended to be a serious thing. The only question in my mind would be whether to allow in-progress models there (i.e., without an OMR-tagged subject line) or whether (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Cool... (...) Ok.. (...) I think it should go to cad.dat.models for unfinished ones... (...) Ok, I was under the understanding that .cad.dat.models.sets was pretty much set and created without the OMR in mind. This works, then... -Tim <>< (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) IIRC, there wasn't any "OMR" at that point...but they both have the same exact underlying philosophy -- capturing a collection of quality models. I always planned to point to the models from the Pause-DB at some point... From April 3: (URL) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) What is the point of doing a set in ldraw if it is not going to be submitted to the OMR? Since we have the models.sets, we don't need the OMR group. If I remember correctly, Todd originally made models.sets *for* the OMR (or at least that was (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:4.2.0.58.199907...omm.com... (...) No, that would take too much time to fix all the submodels. The center of a submodel is just the 0,0,0 point of the submodel file. Like Bram mentioned, putting (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) from (...) now. ;) I wouldn't expect a lazy person like you to go searching for a link :) I didn't know if you might happen to know what it was off the top of your head. I know that would be asking a lot :) (...) you??......Good (...) types (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Thanks Bram. I was thinking along that line, but forgot about light.dat That would work just fine. Ryan ***...*** REPLY SEPARATOR ***...*** (...) plate (...) means (...) 4275/4276, you (...) light.dat as a (...) couple (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Ok... BTW, what does IIRC mean?? -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Get paid to surf the web! Visit: (URL) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) It would be easier if you could move a bunch of parts as a group all at once... 8< snip the light.dat trick explanation... Thanks... I get it now, I guess I'm not that serious an LDraw user :) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Get paid (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hehe :) (...) I didn't catch that thread... (...) Good, my memory isn't failing in old age ;) (...) *nark* *nark* *nark* :) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Get paid to surf the web! Visit: (URL) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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I believe IIRC stands for If I Remember Correctly. IIDRC :) please do correct me. Ryan ***...*** REPLY SEPARATOR ***...*** (...) was pretty much (...) then... (...) have the same (...) quality models. (...) some point... (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:4.2.0.58.199907...omm.com... (...) You can--using LDAO's editor. But you still would have to go through and figure out all the pivot points, where the hinge piece should be compared to where it (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:4.2.0.58.199907...omm.com... (...) LDraw also runs on unix machines, which is why tarballs are needed. -John Van (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Ok, I wasn't aware of that... Cool :) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Get paid to surf the web! Visit: (URL) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I'm not disagreeing here. But could it be optional to editors to change a pivot point if they feel they have the time or if they feel that it would severely enhance the model? I'll also add the pivot point thing to the creation/submission (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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