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  Re: DAT files: Do No Harm
 
(...) I found some model which was (mostly) all 3001.dat, except only the first line gave the part number! All following lines were meant to be the same part (with different location.) I guess the author's viewer tolerates this? So, the rule would (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: DAT files: Do No Harm
 
(...) What about program extensions that modify the DAT code in some way? Are you suggesting that the author of a plugin shouldn't credit himself in the form of a DAT Comment? -Orion (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Ldglite bug report (Was: Portable Ldraw system)
 
(...) Oops! A quick visit to the L3P site reveals that's the camera position in polar coords relative to the look-at point. I'm not sure how I missed that before. But I like it because it avoids the weird LDRAW coordinate system. So I'm gonna have (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: DAT files: Do No Harm
 
(...) Yes, we seem to see a lot of this sort of thing these days. 0 ROTATION CENTER 0 0 0 1 "Custom" I'd say leave it out unless it's actually being used. My guess is most of the time it's not. Don (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: DAT files: Do No Harm
 
(...) does this include "don't add any new lines unless they're intentional"? As in, a program shouldn't add (and forgive me if this is incorrect dat format): 0 edited by dan with DatZap on Tuesday :) Dan (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Ldglite bug report (Was: Portable Ldraw system)
 
(...) I did some work on the other solution, rendering in the background. There's a beta of this here: (URL) -n2 to render each part in the backbuffer, -n4 does the whole model. Also the backbuffer is retained for faster refreshes on window expose (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: DAT files: Do No Harm
 
I don't have any comments, except to say that I agree with pretty much everything you wrote. And that I'd be very hard-pressed to actually implement some of it. And I didn't completely understand all of your points... (...) Yes! (...) Good idea, (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: DAT files: Do No Harm
 
(...) I would go for this. If a line is indeed edited, then I would preserve it's indentation, but remove trailing decimal zeros, and possibly clean up other things, like changing "-0" to "0". If the file has any exponential notation, e.g, "2e1", (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: DAT files: Do No Harm
 
(...) This sounds counter-productive to me. Judging from the official LDraw files, it appears that many of the original files follow these guidelines with respect to indentation: o Comments are not indented o All other lines are indented by one (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: DAT files: Do No Harm
 
(...) These 2 are the 2 biggest problems I have with MLCAD. For some reason MLCad changes the filename in the NAME comment block to an .ldr extension even if the source file is .dat. As more of a part author than a model builder, this is very (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)  
 
  Re: Ldglite bug report (Was: Portable Ldraw system)
 
Got to play with it some more today, some jumbled notes follow... (...) Ok, I changed this and the effect is like night and day. Thanks! I think I'm using the L3P parser. No parser options given, exe is named ldglite.exe. WHOOPS I'm not, -l3 gives (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  DAT files: Do No Harm
 
What consideration should an editor program make for unfamiliar content or eccentric style when it loads and saves an LDRAW file with changes? I am implementing the following general ideas in BrickDraw3D, based on various situations in test files. (...) (22 years ago, 21-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: Track designer ....
 
(...) I think you might need to cross post this to the CAD groups if you want Leonardo to see it. If I remember correctly, he's the only one in posession of the sources at this point. Thanks for the reminder, Don (22 years ago, 21-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Handling Stickers Without a Known Number
 
(...) Hmmmm. Yes I think 100 would be too limiting. But can't see any immediately bad thing about the idea, so I vote yes! ROSCO (22 years ago, 20-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Handling Stickers Without a Known Number
 
I'd like some feedback on the following. Do you like the idea? Dislike it? I've recieved a request, asking for a part number for a sticker whose original sheet number is not known. If you'll remember, we earlier discussed using the numbers from the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New LDRAW renderer for the Mac
 
(...) Speaking of other systems, I did a quick and dirty port of the sources to check out the speed for myself. It's pretty speedy, but not quite as pretty. :-) Slightly modified sources and a makefile are available here if anyone without a Mac (...) (22 years ago, 20-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  File needing review on Parts Tracker
 
I just wanted to point out that this file: (URL) holding up the certification of 9 other files. This isn't the most critical or important situation on the PT, but I've had to hold certified files back from the last two updates because of this one (...) (22 years ago, 20-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [Parts Tracker] Working on Update 2002-04
 
(...) I held 4360.dat back from the 2002-04 update; you can submit your updated file to the tracker. Steve (22 years ago, 19-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Ldglite bug report (Was: Portable Ldraw system)
 
(...) Hey I found a Windows 2000 laptop that exhibits the same symptoms so I did a quick google search for "flickering cursor". It looks like the nasty flickering pointer is a common problem in Windows 2000. Go to the Control Panel/Mouse/Pointer tab (...) (22 years ago, 19-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LDraw.org Parts Update 2002-04 Now Available
 
This is a big one. :) This update contains 234 files, including some 93 new parts. You could call it "Revenge of the Minifigs" - 56 of the new parts are various minifig heads, torsos, legs, and accessories. As always, along with the new parts, there (...) (22 years ago, 19-Aug-02, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev) !! 
 
  Re: Ldglite bug report (Was: Portable Ldraw system)
 
(...) Those are indeed the generic Windows drivers. The Trident web-site says the i-7 only has accelerated 3D drivers for 98 and ME, and the GL_RENDERER string agrees. (...) Generic opengl and it took about 15 seconds to render. Are you using the l3 (...) (22 years ago, 17-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Ldglite bug report (Was: Portable Ldraw system)
 
(...) GL_VERSION = 1.1.0 GL_EXTENSIONS = GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_paletted_texture GL_VENDOR ='Microsoft Corporation' GL_RENDERER ='GDI Generic' GL_RGBA_BITS: (8, 8, 8, 0) GL_DEPTH_BITS = 32 GL_STENCIL_BITS = 8 Buffer Swap Mode = 2 (...) (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Ldglite bug report (Was: Portable Ldraw system)
 
(...) Some of that really sounds like driver problems to me. What does ldglite print out about your opengl drivers? Maybe you're not using the Microsoft Software opengl drivers after all, but rather some brain dead half implemented OEM drivers. Do (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Ldglite bug report (Was: Portable Ldraw system)
 
(...) It seems to be constantly re-drawing the screen when the dialog is active. It's also pegged my CPU utilization at 100%. Hmm, double-clicks don't do anything. Or maybe it's just not polling for mouse clicks fast enough -- it took me 3 or 4 (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable Ldraw system
 
(...) <experiments a bit> I think I may simply have done something wrong. Now that I consiously try to reintroduce the problem I can not figure out how to do it. But it may simply have been that I have edited a sub-file and expected the rendering of (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable Ldraw system
 
(...) Wait a minute! How does having a FILE meta-command at the start of the file break the polling feature? That still sounds like a bug. Tell me more. Don (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Ldglite bug report (Was: Portable Ldraw system)
 
(...) Yeah I've known about the problems with the menu for quite a while now. I refuse to go to a 1.0 release number until I fix that. However since I'm running out of release numbers I've actually started to do something about it. Could you give me (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable Ldraw system
 
--- Dan Boger <dan@peeron.com> wrote: [snip] (...) Um, actually, I released a Vim syntax file a few weeks ago on vim.org; I've just been a little delinquent in its advertising. I was inspired to create one when Jacob posted to .cad asking about (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable Ldraw system
 
It seem that u all want to have ldraw, l3p, and pov-ray in linux and not in dos and win 31 or up but with low requirememts now if u are all ready going to do a linux distro ready for user of ldraw that don't want to fight with linux then I whould (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable Ldraw system
 
(...) or just write a syntax file for vim? I was a hard core emacs fan, but after years and years, I did switch to vi (well vim)... While it might not do *everything* emacs does, it does most everything else, and a lot faster :) Dan (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable LDraw system
 
(...) Exactly. (...) Great. > but they won't be included without a final library (...) Yes. We better get around to decide on the license for the library. What was the last version we discussed? And why didn't we just use it? Maybe we should simply (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable Ldraw system
 
(...) Just getting LDGLite to react to changes to the file it is showing would be a good start. <careful testing while looking at the LDGLite log> Uhmmm... It seems that it is my habit of having a "FILE" meta-command at the start of all of my files (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable Ldraw system
 
(...) Okay, this is a quick and dirty list, just what I've observed or confirmed today: Menu - The right-click menu is very confusing. Why not put this in the menu bar and standard dialog boxes? File browser is confusing, as is file filter. Menu - (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable Ldraw system
 
(...) Sure, go ahead and elaborate. I can't fix it if I don't know about it. I did actually try to fix the text update speed at one point. That's a well known problem with the glut library I use. I can't remember why I stopped working on a fix for (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable Ldraw system
 
(...) Sure thing, but could you perhaps elaborate just a bit on the meaning of "work properly"? Are you looking for multiple levels of polling like l3lab? Don And by the way, since we're in o-t.geek: vi? blech! At least emacs has the ldraw-mode (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable LDraw system
 
(...) I tried to get LeoCAD into Debian last year with the help of a Debian devel but they were too scared of adding the library without a license (there's a long discussion on the Debian-Jr mailing list archives). I even have .deb packages ready (...) (22 years ago, 15-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable Ldraw system
 
(...) I tried it recently, but I am afraid I am too used to writing my models in `vi` to apprecate the interface. Speed-wise it seemed okay. I would rather prefer that you spent some time getting the "polling" feature to work properly. Play well, (...) (22 years ago, 15-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable LDraw system
 
(...) And considering that I just got a single bootable CD Linux system, which runs both KDE, Gnome, OpenOffice.org and a bunch of other stuff, it would probably not be difficult to modify this with some LDraw tools added. The big problem - as I see (...) (22 years ago, 15-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: [Parts Tracker] Working on Update 2002-04  [DAT]
 
(...) Hi Tore, Hi Steve, May be too late to patch "Space Laser-Gun with Side Sight". It has 3 missing edges. Following is a corrected version. Thanks to Tore Eriksson for reworking this part, Thanks to the authors, admins and reviewers for the (...) (22 years ago, 15-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Yet another idea - Portable Ldraw system
 
(...) It finally dawned on me (after a less than subtle yet very helpful IM from someone who shall remain nameless :-) that you're the LDGLite author. :-, I've tried the LEdit mode, and gave up in frustration due to the slow redraw (particularly (...) (22 years ago, 15-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)


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