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Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
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lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Thu, 19 Aug 2004 00:48:08 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Mladen Pejic wrote:
   In lugnet.general, Johannes Koehler wrote:
   Hello!



A few minutes ago I stumbled accross this folder:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=95264 Description: “aircraft of the new german reich”

Following the Up button in the folder thread I also found this:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=82222 “vehicles of Vereinigte Faschistische Staaten des Neues Reichs”

And I wonder: What on earth do moderators on BrickShelf think when they pass something like this? Well, of course those galleries are “safe for kids” since there is no nudity included...

But such Nazi-romanticism is not safe for adults at all. Believe me. There are more than enough idiots in Germany and maybe elsewhere as well who wish back a “New (German) Reich”. But the old German Reich is nothing a reasonable person would ever romanticise about. Only war-glorifying lunatics and moronic racists would deny the appaling facts of the gone fascistic German Reich and make fun about it or portray it in toys. Unless they make an aestheticised statement against war and fascism that is. (Like that Polish artist did with the KZ sets made of LEGO bricks a few years ago. He is not a fascist of course.)

Besides this the clause “vehicles of Vereinigte Faschistische Staaten des Neues Reichs” is grammatically incorrect.

So, to cut a long story short: I’m totally against the censorship thing on BrickShelf. In cases like this, though, as we have the moderators anyway, they should act responsible and not pass every crap just because it’s “safe for kids”.


Bye Jojo



If anybody cares about my post and wish to reply they may set FUT what newsgroup they think is appropriate.

Johannes,

I agree whole-heartedly with you. It’s amazing that the moderators would let something like this pass.

I’m always appalled by how ignorant and insensitive some people are, especially about something as well documented as WWII. If only they read a book or two about Hitler’s glorious Reich, they might learn the truth. Oh well, such is life.

Anyways, thanks for bringing this to attention. Hopefully a moderator will take it down soon.

Mladen Pejic

For what it’s worth, I disagree that this is an issue. First, I do agree that Hitler and his regeme were terrible. Second, simple naming a folder with a Nazi name does not equate the the condoning of the Nazi ideal. What if the particular person is an alternate history science fiction fan? Maybe these models are part of an alternate timeline theme created by the modeller. I think you are reading a little too much into the surface of this “issue”

-Orion



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(...) Orion, perhaps you are right and the majority of people concur, but let me explain myself. Creating WWII-themed guns, minifigs, tanks, dioramas, etc. is okay in my opinion since it is recreating something from the past (it's historical). For (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Johannes, I agree whole-heartedly with you. It's amazing that the moderators would let something like this pass. I'm always appalled by how ignorant and insensitive some people are, especially about something as well documented as WWII. If (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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