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Re: Bulk Lego Auctions
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lugnet.admin.general
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Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:47:05 GMT
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William R Ward wrote:
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> "Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> writes:
> > In lugnet.admin.general, William R. Ward writes:
> > > I don't know what the ratios are as to who uses the web vs. nntp
> > > interfaces, but for people using nntp there is no easy way to access
> > > the charter of a newsgroup.
> >
> > Is it true that there's no easy way? When I was viewing lugnet via NNTP I
> > had my newsreader set to never discard posts (that was a long time ago, it
> > took a lot less space than it would now) so I could go look at post #1 in a
> > group without too much trouble at all.
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> Is it always in message #1? What if the charter has been revised at
> some point later on? It's easy in my newsreader (emacs+gnus) to jump
> to message #1, or any message in the group I'm reading if I know its
> number, but I didn't think that was necessarily guaranteed to do the
> trick. But this is highly newsreader-dependent.
Charters are always post #1. One thing to remember is that while Lugnet
appears to be an NNTP server with an e-mail interface and a very nifty
web interface, it's really a huge data base, with NNTP, e-mail, and web
interfaces. Requesting post #1 in a group using either NNTP or HTTP
always finds the charter for that group. Requesting post #2 in a group
always finds the TOS (and I'm sure it points to a single copy of the
TOS).
> [...]
> > Now, the above is *consistent* but it isn't necessarily easy to remember, or
> > easy to discover, for a newbie... So ya, maybe there's no handy way to
> > review charters. What do you suggest could alleviate that?
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> I can't think of anything - the NNTP interface doesn't really allow
> for it.
NNTP most definitely allows for it. Not all news readers make it easy
though.
Note that you can also get news from Lugnet by telnet, here's a telnet
session with Lugnet's NNTP server:
telnet lugnet.com 119
200 lugnet.com NNTP[auth] server version 1.5.12.2 (9 Jan 1996) ready at
Fri Jan
4 08:44:47 2002 (posting ok).
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Welcome to lugnet.admin.general, a LUGNET discussion group.
CHARTER/PURPOSE:
lugnet.admin.general (group):
General LUGNET discussions about groups, planning, help, etc.
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LUGNET-specific groups (about LUGNET).
OTHER GROUPS:
For complete information about this discussion group server,
including
a full listing of discussion groups and their purposes, point your
web
browser here: http://www.lugnet.com/news/
--
news@lugnet.com
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Perhaps something which would help is to have the posting setup screens
give some hints on how to find the charters for groups. Each group's web
page should also be sure to point to the charter for that group (or even
have the charter on the web page directly, charters aren't big).
Frank
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| (...) GREAT idea. (...) Well, many groups have a blurb at the top which is the group specific part of the charter. But providing a link to the whole thing is a good idea too, and I've done that for trains and trains.org. I suggest other curators (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) Is it always in message #1? What if the charter has been revised at some point later on? It's easy in my newsreader (emacs+gnus) to jump to message #1, or any message in the group I'm reading if I know its number, but I didn't think that was (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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