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Re: RSS output format (was: Re: Lugnet for beginners)
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Fri, 3 Mar 2000 06:27:22 GMT
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Huh?  Sounds waaay too complicated for me.  I subscribe to the KISS principle.
Guess I'd have to see an actual example to see if it would be useful.  My $0.02

In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes:
> > In other words, back when the Spotlight pages were begun, it was very easy
> > to justify trying that out, because it literally was zero programming to
> > implement it -- it's just one particular application of the plaintext markup
> > format I was tinkering with last fall.  Now that the Spotlight has shown[1]
> > itself to be useful, it's worth doing special things to improve the feature.
> 
> Taking this RSS/Channels thing a step further, here's a related possibility
> which applies the RSS suggestion to a more general problem domain:
> 
> First, I'd like to scrap the current Spotlight (after a one-time data
> conversion to a new format, preserving all of the old entries for posterity)
> and make a new Spotlight arising this time from the article-snarf feature I
> was talking about a few months ago -- but with a twist:  Rather than each
> LUGNET member having a simple list of news articles or spotlight entries, let
> each member's list be an externally-devourable RSS channel, and internally,
> give each channel the capability to transclude (include by reference) any
> arbitrary collection of other channels -- recursively -- along with arbitrary
> collections of data article items.
> 
> In other words, your channel could include, say, news items foo and bar and
> zot, plus anything in Abe's and Cal's and Zed's (or any member's) channels.
> Abe's and Cal's and Zed's channels might consist only of pure items, or they
> might be a mix of items and other channels, or they might even be a mix of
> just other channels.  (But it wouldn't matter to the viewer -- only to the
> server -- it would hide all the mess transmagically.)
> 
> Then, each newsgroup (or, more specifically, web category) also gets its own
> channel, where each can transclude any collection of other channels to make a
> larger, meta-channel (just like a member channel, only it would have a slightly
> different URL structure).  At the very top of these would sit the main, all-
> encompassing channel, which would conglomerate together all of the second-level
> newsgroup channels, which would in turn conglomerate together the relevant
> third-level newsgroup channels, etc.  (In practice, the end result would be a
> lot like the current Spotlight feature, except that it would get updated much
> more frequently, by many different people, and it may have greater breadth.)
> A more trimmed-down "lite" version of the Spotlight could easy be culled from
> that, in fact.  Each newsgroup channel would also need a moderator to see to
> it that interesting things got added to the group's channel periodically.
> 
> Does any of the above make sense?  I'm itching to free myself from the current
> Spotlight "prison" I've created for myself (which takes more time per day than
> I'd like -- even though it is a lot of fun), and I also think it would be very
> useful to the community for each member to be able to publish his/her own
> version of the Spotlight -- much more flexible filtering that way.  This isn't
> exactly a priority-one feature, except that the longer it's avoided, the worse
> the current problem of not having it gets.
> 
> Oh, one other thing -- each object in the list which makes up a member's
> personal channel should have a flag saying whether it's private or public
> (decided by the user).  You might want to collate and read information from,
> say, 10 different channel sources, but only to republish, say, 5 of those --
> or zero of them, and select items for inclusion manually only when something
> really stands out.
> 
> So, to recap, basically the idea is this:  You're on the website viewing some
> message that someone posted, and you say, "Gee, that's a great post, I wanna
> add that to My Channel."  So you click the Add To My Channel button and --
> bink! -- it's added to your personal Channel.  Now anyone who gets a feed of
> your Channel will see that message (duplicates removed automagically, of
> course).  And if you want your channel to include stuff automatically without
> your having to add it, you can set your Channel up to be the composite of
> any other channels -- any mix of other people's channels and/or newsgroup-
> topic channels.
> 
> --Todd



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  Re: RSS output format (was: Re: Lugnet for beginners)
 
(...) Actually, it -is- simple -- very simple -- I just gave a complicated programmergeek description, that's all. --Todd (27 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
  Re: RSS output format (was: Re: Lugnet for beginners)
 
(...) There's a couple reasons that it sounds complicated. First, even though it'll be simple on the outside, it's complicated on the inside, and I was describing the insides more than the outsides. Second, for stuff like this, it's often useful to (...) (27 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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  Re: RSS output format (was: Re: Lugnet for beginners)
 
(...) Taking this RSS/Channels thing a step further, here's a related possibility which applies the RSS suggestion to a more general problem domain: First, I'd like to scrap the current Spotlight (after a one-time data conversion to a new format, (...) (27 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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