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Re: lugnet.cad hierarhcy
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lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Sat, 24 Apr 1999 06:28:27 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman) writes:
[...]

   Newsgroup name                Webpage label
   =================             ===================
   lugnet.cad                    CAD
   lugnet.cad.dev                CAD / Development
   lugnet.cad.ld                 CAD / LDraw
   lugnet.cad.ld.ideas           CAD / LDraw / Ideas
   lugnet.cad.ld.models          CAD / LDraw / Models
   lugnet.cad.ld.models.scenes   CAD / LDraw / Models / Scenes
   lugnet.cad.ld.models.sets     CAD / LDraw / Models / Sets
   lugnet.cad.ld.parts           CAD / LDraw / Parts
   lugnet.cad.ld.parts.prim      CAD / LDraw / Parts / Primitives
   lugnet.cad.ld.sw [R]          CAD / LDraw / Software
   lugnet.cad.ray [R]            CAD / Ray-Tracing

All of the .cad.ld.* groups would allow the posting of DAT content, and .cad
(or at least .cad.dev) should probably continue to allow it as well, just in
case it's needed.

I just took a few steps toward implementing the structure above, and while
"ld" doesn't look too bad in the ng names, it looks *terrible* when it
appears in a URL in the Location/Address boxes of NN & MSIE.  :-(

Compare:

   http://www.lugnet.com/cad/ld/parts/
and
   http://www.lugnet.com/cad/ldraw/parts/

Maybe it's because of the sans-serif typeface in combination with tall
skinny slash (/) characters, or maybe it's because, psychologically, URLs on
average tend to make more sense than cryptic ng names, but in any case I now
very much dislike the abbreviation "ld" (in this context, not others) and
feel very strongly that it should say the full word "ldraw" instead.

I'm sorry ever for suggesting "ld"!  =:*O

So.

One last round (I hope!) of brainstorming...

Since LDraw is 90% of what "CAD" means in the context of LEGO toys, and
since ldraw.org is now a reality, and since at least two other LEGO-related
CAD tools can work with LDraw data, it seems entrenched (in a good way) as
The Way of Things.  So what about moving it up a notch in the ng hierarchy?
(As before, [R] denotes "reserved for future expansion.")

   Newsgroup name                Webpage label
   ==========================    =================================
   lugnet.cad                    CAD
   lugnet.cad.dev                CAD / Development
   lugnet.cad.dev.ldraw-org      CAD / Development / www.ldraw.org
   lugnet.cad.ray [R]            CAD / Ray-Tracing
   lugnet.ldraw.ideas            LDraw / Ideas
   lugnet.ldraw.models           LDraw / Models
   lugnet.ldraw.models.scenes    LDraw / Models / Scenes
   lugnet.ldraw.models.sets      LDraw / Models / Sets
   lugnet.ldraw.parts            LDraw / Parts
   lugnet.ldraw.parts.prim       LDraw / Parts / Primitives
   lugnet.ldraw.software [R]     LDraw / Software

This way, (1) there is much less need to abbreviate .ldraw => .ld, less need
to abbreviate .software => .sw [hi, Sproat!] and (2) the newsgroup names are
given much more convenient and intuitive URLs -- for example:

   http://www.lugnet.com/ldraw/parts/      [pretty good]
instead of
   http://www.lugnet.com/cad/ldraw/parts/  [not bad, but not great]
or
   http://www.lugnet.com/cad/ld/parts/     [pretty gunky]

Generally, I want to like this arrangement, but I'm a bit uncomfortable
about its psychological distance from the .cad.* hierarchy.

On the other hand, it's so darn compelling and attractive as options go.

I'm gonna give this a whirl on the webpages -- so nobody freak out just yet;
this is just going to be a test to get a better feel for whether it's better
or worse than the other options.  It won't mean creating any ng's just yet,
and the test is completely reversible.

--Todd



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(...) Welp, it feels nice to move around in, but it SURE feels disjointed from the rest of the CAD stuff, which makes it no fun at all in the final analysis. Cross-linkages could repair some of that, but that's just a band-aid, and it would just (...) (26 years ago, 24-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

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