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| | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | Dear Lenny, --SNIP-- (...) It was unneccasary in my opinion too. If it wasn't intended as a barb it should have been written more carefully, if it was it was unneccesary and rude. (...) I'm not sure I agree with your statement that people stopped (...) (19 years ago, 14-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Rob Hendrix
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| | | | | | (...) Hello Tim. You have every right to have your own opinion on how to interpret my post. Misread, I can understand how someone might think that I thought Lugnet was never calm. This was not my intention. I just noticed heated debates more often (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | --SNIP-- (...) Hi Rob, I wasn't interpreting your post at all. I realise that my response sounded a little harher than it was intended. Basically all I was trying to say was that you should have been more careful if you were posting an "ahhh, that's (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —David Eaton
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| | | | | (...) To be fair, I think that's what's being gauged at the moment. It's true that in recent years, Lugnet's importance as *the* place for Lego discussion has gone down. If I understand correctly, a big part of what's happening now is that Suz is (...) (19 years ago, 14-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Suzanne Rich Green
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| | | | | | | (...) This is correct. I'm also trying not to make a lot of noise about it, so as not to be overwhelmed right now. BTW, I have not "announced that unless something happens, Lugnet will be shut off on Oct 1." (...) Yes, that's what's happening, among (...) (19 years ago, 14-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | LUGNET going away?!? —Joe Strout
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| | | | | | | | | (...) So what HAVE you announced, Suz? This is the first I've heard about any such possibility, and I'm very dismayed by it. To me, LUGNET is the place to discuss LEGO. It's also the only web-based forum I can stand to read and post to – I've tried (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Suz- What you and Todd have created is something very, very special. It would be really sad if LUGNET were to go away. Nothing could ever take its place. I know that there are other boards, but they can't really compare with LUGNET's history (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Suzanne Rich Green
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Yeahh, I knooow :-( ...sigh. (...) LOL. I just now saw this in the web browser. Very cute and warms my heart. :-) -Suz (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Paul Sinasohn
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I'm still willing to help as an Admin, or in any way I can - please drop me an email when you get a chance or are ready to talk. I'm here. Paul Sinasohn LUGNET #115 BAYLUG (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Thomas Stangl
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Well, I'll chime in with a note in favor of Lugnet. It is my portal to the Lego world 99% of the time. Granted, I only use NNTP, but I still find the set search extremely handy. If Lugnet were to go away, I'm not sure where I'd go, as I just (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Gerhard R. Istok
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| | | | | | | | (...) I don't know how to say this without sounding cocky or pompous..... But I try to make sure that Lugnet is THE place where historical and reference information about LEGO that is found NOWHERE ELSE (outside of Billund) can be shared with all (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | (...) I care as well. I love LUGNET. I love the community here at LUGNET. I love the discussions I've had (and will continue to have) on LUGNET. I personally believe that the AFOL community will lose something pretty spectacular would LUGNET (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Kevin L. Clague
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| | | | | | (...) Thank you Dave. I love LUGNET very, very much. I remember life before LUGNET. It was a pretty lonely LEGO world for me far from any LUG. I'm very concerned at the consideration of the demise of LUGNET. If it were to happen, it would be a huge (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Jan-Albert van Ree
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| | | | | | (...) Ditto! I would like to volunteer as well. Now for somebody or some group to hatch a plan. Perhaps Suz and Todd would be willing to help at least transition into something new to help at least stabalize things? (...) Same here, without LUGNET I (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Suzanne Rich Green
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| | | | | (...) My random thought at reading first line above: ...I remember rtl in 1995 getting quiet because of college breaks. But anyway, you're certainly welcome to voice your opinion, Lenny. A not-so-random thought in the back of my mind these days: (...) (19 years ago, 14-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | | | (...) Heh - don't worry too much about that. I generally only trip Keith Goldman and Soren Roberts, and since they aren't coming this year ... (19 years ago, 14-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) ... I better watch where I put MY feet? (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | (...) Lenny, people were having fun elsewhere long before Lugnet was around. Having fun on other forums does not mean people don't care - I for one use Lugnet as a resource regularly, and I think it's value in that area is only rivalled by (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | | | (...) That's not what I meant. I didn't intend to imply causation - I would have been more direct about making that assertion. (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Chris Gray
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| | | | | (...) [Note - I haven't read the other followups - I'm posting unbiased.] This is just not true. I think there are tons of people who care about LUGNET, but just feel they are not in a position to help out. I run a small server on this computer in (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Marco Tagliaferri
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| | | | | (...) I came to here by searching for quite a while after I read (URL) this post> of you Lenny. I searched because I was deeply impressed by the thought LUGNET could die in two month. And I hadn't even heard about this until now! I personally felt (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.announce, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | (...) At times I wondered about that. ;) (...) I, for one, do care. You sound rather bitter... which is a real shame. You sound like you are willing Lugnet to fail. I was sad that you all had to "resign", but you must recognise that LUGNET is now a (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Kelly McKiernan
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| | | | | | | (...) No. If it was better, would Suz be taking the actions she's taking? Don't confuse cause and effect. - Kelly (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Suzanne Rich Green
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| | | | | | | | (...) Kelly, I hear you, but this is wrong. I must take a moment to correct your assumption: If I had to point to one reason over all others as to why I'm doing this right now, it's because of my husband and our relationship being in jeopardy over (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Suzanne Rich Green
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Okay, I called my doctor and was able to postpone 'till 3:30 because someone else canceled. That means I have to leave in about 90 minutes. -Suz (19 years ago, 18-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Gerhard R. Istok
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Suzanne, after reading your website comments, I can see the strain that this has had on your personal life. Now for the tough question.... is Todd willing to give up the code to Lugnet? If so, then there may be hope for the future of Lugnet. I (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Jan-Albert van Ree
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Even with the code, specially if all is in PERL, it's till a daunting task to maintain it all. There's (unfortunately IMHO) a reason pretty much every website under the moon these days uses some "cheap" CMS system with a simple webboard (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | LUGNET's code [was: Random thought of the day] —Suzanne Rich Green
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) yes. this touches on what I meant. And let me say, NNTP and the e-mail lists are extremely important to me. Todd was teaching himself Perl as he created LUGNET. This is what I'd call "personal project driven learning." Anyone who's done this (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNET's code [was: Random thought of the day] —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) The code does take some getting used to. Reading Todd's code was sometimes really amazing - you'd see he was planning for things you know he had no idea he will need one day. And whenever solving a new problem, there were always many hooks to (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNET's code [was: Random thought of the day] —Jan-Albert van Ree
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Suz wrote: <SNIP big tech history> (...) Exactly, there are enough sites like that out there, to me it's the NNTP that made it unique. As for Dan's reply, I think he's spot on in several things. However it seems certain pieces of what he lists are (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNET's code [was: Random thought of the day] —Suzanne Rich Green
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | In lugnet.admin.general, Jan-Albert van Ree wrote: [...] (...) Welllll.... I'm sorry to say that this didn't finish setup. The servers are there, but a few weeks ago they were to receive an upgrade to the new BU Linux, and I told MattM to hold off (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNET's code [was: Random thought of the day] —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Some parts are excessively documented (like the PML engine) and some parts are poorly documented (like the query engine), and the rest falls somewhere in the middle, mostly being scantily documented. (...) PML is just Perl inside of HTML...so (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNET's code [was: Random thought of the day] —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | | | | | | | --SNIP-- (...) Cool, sounds like PHP done right. Tim (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Suzanne Rich Green
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) (I'm sorry... I oft forget that everyone doesn't know all that I do.) Yes, he did so when I went to Boston the first time. That was my reason for meeting with him face-to-face. Please consider me his buffer. [thinking...] ...I don't know how (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Ray Sanders
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I'm not an insider at LUGNET and I've never seen the code or heard about until the remarks here. I have been a coder/designer (and whatever terms apply) at various shops over the years and I *have* seen code where calling it 'patched' would (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Suzanne Rich Green
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Hi, Ray! Short answer (quoting a friend): a) Lugnet needs a sustainable governing mechanism. b) Lugnet needs a sustainable revenue source. c) etc... There are all kinds of possibile aproaches to those first two blocks, but 'A' might mean (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Kelly McKiernan
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| | | | | | | | (...) Suz, Thanks for clarifying that. I wasn't actually having an issue with what you are doing or why (and in many ways I'm in the same type of situation you are), but more with Scott's assertion that LUGNET is better off because Larry, Frank, (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —C. L. GunningCook
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| | | | | | | | (...) Kelly I really appreciate your words, especially those in this last paragraph that echos the way many of us feel. My fear is also that no other site can pick up the slack, at least not in a timely enough situation, as you mentioned. The more (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Jan-Albert van Ree
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| | | | | | (...) No it's not, it's just that no situation has yet arisen that makes the fact obvious. But think of this : - all of the cool stuff talked about, even at BF'04 isn't going to happen anytime soon, if at all - interest will drop even further - like (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | Re: Random thought of the day —Anders Isaksson
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| | | | (...) Or perhaps because it's summer time for many of the posters, terms have ended, and so on. As far as I remember, there has always been a 'summer slump' in the posting frequency. (...) I didn't read her post in exactly that way, but maybe you (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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