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Sat, 2 Mar 2002 03:36:42 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek writes:
> 2. Was the guidance given graciously accepted, and if it
> wasn't, was the point in time it was bucked up to here too
> early, about right, or too late?
>
> First, I would say that the guidance (which most acknowledge
> was extremely polite and gentle) given by me was NOT
> graciously accepted... and surprisingly, at least to me, Bram
> has subsequently said he's not on board with the notion that
> guidance is appropriate. That's scary.
I do not think guidance is inappropriate. I think dragging guidance out
to more than 1 or 2 posts to the point where it becomes a huge argument
is inappropriate.
> As soon as someone says "you're yelling at me" that's being
> ungracious as far as I am concerned.
My reply was obviously misunderstood...I did not mean "yelling"
literally. I meant that I was unsurprised that you commented on the
off-topic nature of my post. If that was not clear (David seems to have
understood it that way, at least), then I apologize. I also apologize
for the "they're all gone" post...it was posted in the wrong group. I
would have set the follow-ups from the original post to .market, but I
was correct in assuming that there would be .trains related replies.
> But I decided, rightly or wrongly, that I was going to
> do my darndest to keep a brawl out of .trains.... it has a
> LOT of newbies in it right now, and is high traffic enough.
I agree on that point. I'd rather avoid a brawl entirely though. There
really wasn't any reason for you to reply to my rebuttal, (nor was there
much reason for my rebuttal in the first place).
--Bram
(posting in this thread way more than I want to)
Bram Lambrecht
bram@cwru.edu
www.bldesign.org
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Message has 1 Reply: ![](/news/x.gif) | | Re: Porthole alternative
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| (...) There is NO reason for a rebuttal to guidance, ever, unless you think there's an issue with the guidance. The proper response to guidance, *unless you think there is an issue* is "thanks, I'll keep that in mind". Nothing else. See Shiri's post (...) (22 years ago, 2-Mar-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| In lugnet.admin.general, David Koudys writes: <snip> (...) Nope. There are at least two issues here with the original post, its followup, and the responses. It is useful to keep them separate and many in this thread have but not all. 1. Was the (...) (22 years ago, 2-Mar-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
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