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  10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
Someone in the US e-mailed me to say they received a paper catalogue today and 10020 was pictured in it. Actually he didn't say it was pictured, just that it was in it, but I assume there was a picture. I have asked for a scan, but presumably he was (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains) !! 
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Pic is up on Brickshelf. (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains) ! 
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Link please........ (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
Looks erm... different. Gray wheels! Loads of stickers! Have mixed feelings about it... (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I'm not a train guy, but that looks great. I just ordered mine (via phone) The rep said there due on Feb 19th. Jonathan (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
"Jeroen de Haan" <jeroendehaan@mac.com> wrote in message news:GrLAup.HJu@lugnet.com... (...) feelings (...) Such as? I think it is an awesome looking set highlighted by the return of the 4564 (in red this time) style window. 436 pieces for $40 - an (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
Here is the direct link to the Brickshelf scan - (URL) wonder if there will eventually be matching passenger cars for the beauty? Or perhaps Lego Direct will offer bulk yellow and red train doors & windows so we can build our own... Bryan "Huw (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)  
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
"Mike Walsh" <mike_walsh@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:GrLB7M.Ix0@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) them - (...) As a follow up to my own post, I just ordered three of them along with a Pizza-to-Go set (10036). Supposed to ship (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I agree...the train is awesome, and I think you have to order it as soon as its available, because who knows how many sets will be available, and how many <certain> train-heads will order!!!! (...) I think this is a good engine to haul a bunch (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
"Benjamin Medinets" <bmedinets@excite.com> wrote in message news:GrLBtH.Kzq@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) as (...) [ ... snipped ...] It is available for order now (at least in the US via S@H phone sales - 800.835.4386). I meant to (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
Mike & All, (...) WOW! This is incredible. As someone who is struggling with his frist MOC Engine, I think TLC did an excellent job. Thanks goes to whoever got this out! (...) Indeed. (...) Like I need something else to buy! : ) Great job! Scott S. (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
Why would this set include a certificate of authenication? "Mike Walsh" <mike_walsh@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:GrLD7F.21K@lugnet.com... (...) how (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
"Bryan Kinkel" <helpdesk@loseyourmind.com> wrote in message news:GrLB49.IMF@lugnet.com... (...) given it hadn't been mentioned here! It's a neat set, for sure. Personally I'd rather have seen a blue train, making it more suitable for UK prototypes, (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
I just called S@H and they said you can't place an order until the 19'th! I wonder If I'll remember to order it on the 19th. KL (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) That's a huge understatement. I think we've all been smoked by this one. And to think that with few exceptions, we had all the pieces to do it. Whoever designed this set gets a great big gold star! KL (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
The second time I called I was allowed to pre-order it. KL (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
I called and ordered 2 today. They said it won't ship til the 19th....but she let me order it. HMMMMM must depend on who you talk to I guess. (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) My eyes are wildly bugged-out! This Super Chief is beautiful. Huw: thanks for the compliment, but I am not this good. I think this Super Chief model far surpasses my study on the f7. I just took a look back at my (feeble) attempt at the f7 (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Yes! Definitely among the top 10 of best designs within the last 10 years! Only compareable with the Sopwith Camel and the 5571 Black Cat Truck. (...) Haha! We all know you are. I have not been the only one who said: James must have joined the (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I'm not even a train person, but that's got to be the most realistic official system scale set I've seen... and *why* is this not in stores?!? Mark W. (22 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I asked and she said the first 10,000 produced will be numbered, and any produced after that will not. I was the first one to order one from this rep although she told me she could hear the other reps taking orders for them all around her. (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  10020 the next MOC? (was Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?)
 
(...) I agree and just hung up the phone from ordering one. I'm going to be using it to pull these (URL) though. This is the first train engine - that isn't a MOC - that I like. In fact, if it didn't say otherwise, I would have thought that this is (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Wow. On hearing this, I couldn't hold back any more. I just finished ordering two :) (along with a Pizza to Go and Breezway Cafe). Hopefully the first 10000 will have a unique numbered sticker to identify them... What a great looking set. Keep (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) They already offer the correct color: Grey. Yellow and red would be wrong. Santa Fe never had passenger stock of any significant in those colors. They used dark green during the heavyweight era (since much of their stock was Pullman owned or (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I pre-ordered three today, two for me and one for a friend. They said, they will ship on the 19th, so I ask for express delivery. I should have them in time for the SMRC Train Show on the 23rd and 24th. Now I need to wip up some cars to go (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I don't know, Ben. I don't think James has the heart to invest so much time into designing a DOMESTIC model such as the chief. He's much to brainwashed with that European bug. :^) Actually, I'm sure quite a lot of inspiration came from James (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) True..I was going to respond to this but you beat me to it. However, since your the expert, Larry, answer this question for me. I have seen a model of the super chief made in O scale by Lionel that had the yellow, red, and black strips (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) out! Funny, I am also at this point. I have checked various books from libraries to give me ideas but I just don't have the building skills (I have the parts, though) to create an engine nose piece like an F7 that I am happy with. Just minutes (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I just quickly modified one of my Amfleet coaches to go with the Super Cheif: (URL) differences? It's 39 studs long instead of 40, no corrougated above the windows, new window pattern, and the windows are one plate taller. Oh yeah, and no (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Maybe they see the GoB as a threat, and want to compete 8?) On another note, I wonder if they will be available outside the US? ROSCO (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I was wondering the same thing. It doesn't show up on the S@H website, not even on the USoA part... Mark -crossing his fingers- de Kock (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) ..or on their website? Why do the americans always get all the fun (first0 ? Mark -still crossing his fingers- de Kock (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  James is God, was: Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
"James Mathis" <thakius@nmt.edu> wrote in message news:GrLJrx.L52@lugnet.com... (...) Sorry James, but you are. I have just got to grips with your APT (and have incorporated it's nose into a more conventional multiple unit) and now you have blown (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
Larry, Thanks for pointing this out. Gray doors and windows are far easier to come by anyway! Bryan "Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GrLu0J.JDG@lugnet.com... (...) beauty? (...) windows (...) wrong. (...) They (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I'm not sure. I can't say they definitively didn't ever do red/yellow/black striping but my experience agrees with yours, only plain with black lettering. No one has yet commmented that the stripe that was chosen was only yellow instead of (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I didn't see that they were going to include a Certificate of Authenticity, just that the set was going to be numbered. ROSCO: I doubt that they consider the Guild of Bricksmiths(tm) a threat, but one does wonder. We're small potatoes but (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Nice. May I suggest that your underbody needs to be busier. Instead of just a plain darkgrey set of slopes, put some mechanicals, plumbing and tankage down there. Underbodies typically housed stuff like generators (if the train didn't have (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Now whether the engines will be numbered individually or just numbered 27 as shown on the picture is what bothers me. I don't think you can fit 9,999 on a sticker meant for a 1x2 tile. Or they could number the certificate 1 through 9,999 and (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Looking good! I'm waiting until I get my Super Cheif, then I'll match it with a B unit, & maybe buy another A, then build the cars... Here's a lil more: (URL) (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
"Kai Brodersen" <cbrodersen@mediaone.net> wrote in message news:GrMqpK.BAw@lugnet.com... (...) Authenticity, (...) but (...) influence (...) as (...) on (...) The set includes a certificate of authentication as stated in the last sentence of the (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue and in Europe!
 
(...) I tried to phone Austria this morning on the 00800 number but I got 20 seconds of muzak and was disconnected. Then I e-mailed S@H and they repleyed (on a saterday!). It will be on the site next week (no specific date mentioned but maybe 19 (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
 
  Re: 10020 is orderable from S@H
 
I just ordered mine from S@H they said 7 to 10 days after the 19th. Before the end of the month! I got 2 so I could make a dummy(or run it backwards). I think I'll use Kevin's cool coach design and retire my "Pullman" cars. (URL) been wanting to use (...) (22 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I've seen two different photos of it - one number 27 and one number 301 - so it would seem safe to say that yes there is a certificate and yes each one is numbered individually. The four digit numbers are going to be a bit crowded though... (...) (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
"Steve Chapple" <LEGOArches@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:GrnJ59.5D5@lugnet.com... (...) (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Yep...(URL)Do you have a link to the one that is numbered 301? (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) GRRRRR, it can't be accessed unless your a member! Josh (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) opps forgot about that...well take my word it does say 301:-) (...) (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
"Chris Leach" <cleach@mediaone.net> wrote in message news:GrnLxE.ApL@lugnet.com... (...) First you have to be a yahoo member, which I am; then you have to be a member of the group "iltco," which I'm not. Can't view it. (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Sure - I threw it into my Brickshelf gallery... (URL) (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Josh (...) (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
I have just ordered mine via the S@H phone number (800-453-4652) in Canada. Expect to ship on upcoming Wednesday. This is truly an amazing train to own. "GoB" quality but LEGO friendly price tag. Way to go, LEGO! "Mike Walsh" (...) (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
Since, I don’t have a copy of the new catalog yet, I have been staring at the scanned images. On the top right hand side of the picture, is another picture of the inside of the engine. Looking at the caption below it says "Open the roof to see (...) (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) You're thinking too hard. The top of the picture is just the removeable top, and the bottom of the picture shows the interior. As for the appearances that the two locomotives are different sizes, I counted studs, and estimate that both (...) (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
I just called the Lego@Home and the customer service rep told me Lego plans to issue 7,500 boxes of this set total. Andrea (...) (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
"Aza" <azana@mba2001.hbs.edu> wrote in message news:Grop7q.D7v@lugnet.com... (...) plans (...) [ ... snipped ... ] Maybe we can get (or did get) a more definitive answer out of Brad Justus at BricksWest. I have spoken to two LEGO S@H reps and (...) (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) How are we going to use the black decorative 9v train motor side piece accurately on this model? Will we have to replace the light grey trucks with our own black ones? Should we expect LEGO to include light grey decorative sides for our 9v (...) (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) According to this link on brickshelf from Brickswest it looks like the set comes with a pair to "moterize" your set.If this is the case that means when you do moterize it you will have an extra set of grey wheels.(URL) (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I can live with it 8?) ROSCO (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Ray (22 years ago, 17-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Would this mean that it would be considered bad form to part about 50 out, just to get the grey 1x2x2 panels with porthole print? :D best LFB (22 years ago, 18-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) The issue raises lots of questions (but doesn't *beg* any). Presumably you get numbered decals to put on the engine? And a certificate that goes with those numbers? Would there be a market for just the numbered items if you decided to part (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I'd buy some of the parts! Josh (22 years ago, 18-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Not unless they sent 2 sets of the grey trim out pieces.It only leaves you with 2 sets of grey wheels not 4.Your B-unit would be 2 wheel sets shorts(you could add a second motor but then you would have to put the regular black trim on that (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Yeah! What she said! Thanks Maggie! (I know this is off topic, but it happens to relate to a pet peeve of mine. For the record, "beg the question" does NOT mean "prompt the question," despite widespread incorrect usage. For those interested, (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) You could produce these yourself, I think, using a genuine one for a pattern and applying adhesive labels on panels or bricks for much less initial cost and effort. To anyone who will be parting these out: I will take the Red winscreens--two (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
Kevin Salm <kdsalm@dreamscape.com> wrote in message news:GrpwDw.J3J@lugnet.com... (...) plans (...) That is 10000 (...) snip (...) here... I will take two or four. I hope to see them as loose parts (bulk?) Seems weird to me that they will make only (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) That's only 10,000 numbered sets, they didn't say they would stop production at 10,000. jt (22 years ago, 18-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
In lugnet.trains, James Trobaugh writes: snip (...) Note sure if anyone has asked this but... Within the relm of the numbered sets, is there any exterior way of determing the numbers within the box ? I would assume that certain numbers or ranges of (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Drat. That very item has officially swayed me to trains. The reissue of the Legends sets didn't do it. The build it yourself colored trains nearly did it, but I managed to holf off, but this...this is just... My first HO train set was a Sante (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Well, that is what this says: (URL) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I would like to have 119, 4551, 7740, 7750, 7777 which are my favorite train sets. Any 77xx or some of the (virtual) numbers of my April fools joke would be cool too. Kind Regards, Ben (22 years ago, 19-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
I would like to have my Lugnet member number: 377 -Rob "Reinhard "Ben" Beneke" <r.beneke@tu-bs.de> wrote in message news:GrrxuD.Ln0@lugnet.com... (...) production (...) train (...) would be (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Anyone know of a reference that has a list of the actual (real-life) engine numbers assigned to the super-chiefs? I imagine those would be fairly sought-after. ROSCO (22 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Answering my own question: (URL) some good pics as well. ROSCO (22 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
Darn, now I have to buy 4 more 10020's so I can make some "b" units... Oh well, it is tax return season... -Rob "Ross Crawford" <rcrawford@csi.com> wrote in message news:Grt3wo.Hqx@lugnet.com... (...) engine (...) (22 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) I actually have a chance for mine (#5) if I want to pay through the nose once it comes up for bid. Seriously, the logistics of letting people request particular numbers boggle the mind... (22 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Once “the register” is in place there will be an opportunity for swapping. Rob may well get 377 in the end. Personally, I would settle for a consecutive run of 3 or so. Preferably: 1, 2 & 3. ;) Scott A (22 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Of course, the question burning in everybody's mind is: Who's the lucky devil who's going to get engine #666? That sure will be one interesting Satan Fe Super Chief. ;) Enough of this waiting in limbo, when's my 10020 arrive? Ugh, this thread (...) (22 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) well good luck Scott, considering those are going to be auctioned off on E-bay (well 1 and 2) getting number 3 will probably be even harder considering it is the first one <available for direct purchase> to the general public. Benjamin (...) (22 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) benjamin you are wrong. Engines 1,2,3,4 & 5 will be a) an auction on ebay or b) given out some other way (contest, etc...). The first available number thru Direct is #6. -AHui (22 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) Does nobody understand irony? btw : I think all of the 1st 5 are to be listed on ebay. Scott A (22 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
(...) No. I looked at the box shown at BricksWest pretty carefully, and the only indication I saw of the number was the actual 1x2 red tile that has the number printed on it. I didn't look at the instructions or see any "certificate"... I think the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) LOL, well I'm not changing the title of it though! ;) jt (22 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes: snip (...) Are the tiles numbered, or are the numbers on stickers that go on the tiles ? If the tiles themselves were numbered, that would be way cool, but I was expecting stickers. Ray (22 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
The tiles are printed, not stickered. (...) -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support | Sun Microsystems Customer Service | iPlanet Support - (URL) Please do not associate my personal views with my employer (22 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)

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