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Re: Heavily modified 8880 chassis, succesfully motorised and solar powered.
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Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:40:29 GMT
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In lugnet.technic, Gillis Hommen writes:

It's just that according to this page:
http://www.philohome.com/motors/motorcomp.htm the new style lego motors'
efficiency is only 54% at 9v (or even 47% for the 'newer' (?) style V9
motor)...which is not even close to 90%...

Well, I can't argue with that... But in your application, going from a motor
with 30% efficiency to one with 54% efficiency will help a lot. You will
also gain some efficiency by simplifying your gearing since the new motors
are already geared down.

I'd have to connect the 2 motors in serial

??? Why would you do this? I'm not an electronics expert, but connecting
motors in series seems strange. The speed of a motor is proportional to the
voltage across it, so I think you would get drastic speed variations between
two motors in series. This was discussed on the newsgroup a while ago:
http://news.lugnet.com/robotics/?n=19878
Someone actually tried connecting two motors in series (it is possible with
Lego, just a bit awkward) and this is what he found:
http://news.lugnet.com/robotics/?n=19880
If you connect two motors in parallel, they have the same voltage across
them, so their speed should be much more closely matched. I guess they draw
more current in this case, but such is life...

Connecting two motors without a diff
is do-able, but in serial, one of the motors will probably get more voltage
than the other, which makes the 'tandem connection' less optimal.

Right. In parallel this won't be a problem.

You're totally right about the weight though. The motor I'm looking to buy
weighs in at some 160grams, much more than 2 lego motors.

And don't forget cost :)

Actually, if your main focus is efficiency, why would you even use the
supercar chassis to begin with? I think you could increase your efficiency
dramatically just by using a highly simplified chassis with minimal gears
and parts. It would be lighter and have less losses due to friction.

Rob



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  Re: Heavily modified 8880 chassis, succesfully motorised and solar powered.
 
(...) Connecting the motors in parallel means they'll get 16volts at about .25amps each. (if their combined electrical resistance is right, which it isn't, which makes the solar panel perform badly...) That's 4 watts per motor, when they're intended (...) (22 years ago, 15-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)

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  Re: Heavily modified 8880 chassis, succesfully motorised and solar powered.
 
(...) It's just that according to this page: (URL) the new style lego motors' efficiency is only 54% at 9v (or even 47% for the 'newer' (?) style V9 motor)...which is not even close to 90%...Of course that test may be a little off, but would that (...) (22 years ago, 14-Feb-03, to lugnet.technic)

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