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Re: Studless Technic models
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lugnet.technic
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Sat, 17 Jan 2004 11:32:53 GMT
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John Guerquin wrote:
> Allan, I couldn't agree with you more. Technic is supposed to be more
> complicated than other lines. To me complicated = more challenging,
> and I like that!
But this complication is unnecessary and doesn't bring anything
new/positive. Rather the other things - studless beams are incompatible
with System. That's a major issue. They had to design completely new
pneumatics for it. We may also see new motors, maybe new sensors,
because they rely (at least partially) on the studs. Of course, if you
have motors today, you have to had some previous set which was mixed in
terms of studs/studless. Do you really think this _adds_ something
positive? Like throw your System away, now you have Technic?
> I disagree Steven - see above. I think the Inventor sets, ie.
> <http://guide.lugnet.com/set/4090>
> <http://guide.lugnet.com/set/4093>
> <http://guide.lugnet.com/set/4094>
> are the simpler Technic sets, and they use the more traditional
> technic beams with studs.
Do you think my old 744 <http://guide.lugnet.com/set/4090> should be
called 'simpler Technic'?
> The new studless Technic sets are the advanced sets.
What's advanced on
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8441
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8451
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8453
Don't know anything about 8454, because it's so unattractive. Same
applies to 8465 & 8466, but these are 2 years old.
There's is only one _current_ _advanced_ Technics set - 8455 Backhoe.
> I believe that my 11-year-old self could have done it too, but obviously much
> slower that my 29-year-old self ;) I got my first Technic set in 1984 at
> age 10, and built it without problems, so I don't see this being different.
Yeah. But you had some years of previous experiences with Lego (System).
This is not System. It's not compatible. You can't reasonably attach
almost anything from System to the model. That was not a problem with
older Technic sets.
> 2003 is the first year with technic sets that have few studs (backhoe has 30 studs total).
Somewhat I hope it'd be last year ;-)
> Just think of the studless beams as progress and evolution of the TECHNIC
> product line. Like the 3, then 5, and now 7 long axles. Progress. Friction
> axle pins. 3-long frictionless pins. 12, 20, and 36 tooth gears... I think
> you get my point :)
Progress is good. Replacement is not. This is the same as the color
issue - nobody is against new colors, but almost everybody is against
replacement.
Again, to make all this ranting clear: I'm not against studless beams.
I'm against replacement of studded beams with studless beams in Technic
sets.
--
Jindroush <jindroush@nospam.seznam.nospam.cz>
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