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Re: Sci Fi Novels --> movies
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Sat, 6 Mar 2004 04:43:15 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Erik Olson wrote:
   Gully Foyle is...the original Joker AND Batman in one

That would be a bit difficult, since his story wasn’t published until 1956, 17 years after Batman first graced the cover of Detective Comics #32, and 16 years after the Joker was introduced in Batman #1. Ironically enough, the first Joker story was reprinted in 1956.

   Think of it as “Les Miserables” meets “Count of Monte Cristo” in space, with a dash of James Bond and bouquet of Klingon.

From what I hear, it’s basically just a rewrite of CoMC set in space, much like the long-standing tradition of reinterpreting Shakespeare for alternate settings, such as West Side Story and The Lion King. When a movie is based on a reinterpretation of classical literature, it’s usually adapted directly into the movie, not taken from a second-hand source. That’s not to say that it can’t happen, nor that it wouldn’t be successful if it did. It’s just not likely to happen, and with a book that’s been around for 48 years, isn’t commonly found on bookstore shelves, and was written by someone who’s not a household name after all these years, it’s even less likely.

Now, if you want a modern story that truly deserves cinematic treatment, read This Alien Shore by C.S. Friedman. It’s got five of the most disparate personalities forced to work together...and that’s just the main character. It’s got some of the most unearthly aliens...and they’re all human. It’s also the only original novel that I can think of that includes two completely unrelated methods of FTL travel...but one of them is a complete mystery to the characters, and the other is a complete mystery to the readers. It’s got backstabbing, corporate raiders, backstabbing, mystery, backstabbing, adventure, backstabbing, no sappy love story, backstabbing, multiple intriguing narrative styles, backstabbing, two plots that work (where many novels struggle to achieve one), and more backstabbing. You can’t trust anyone in this story, and the main character can’t afford to.



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  Re: Sci Fi Novels --> movies
 
(...) (Ahem..) Alfred Bester's job was writing and editing Detective Comics through the 1940s. Batman worked for him. However, what I meant was, the movie version of Batman and Joker leap out of the pages of Bester's Tiger, Tiger. The momentum of (...) (21 years ago, 6-Mar-04, to lugnet.space, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: Sci Fi Novels --> movies
 
(...) I think you may have heard wrong. I first read Destination a long long time ago. I read CoMC about the same time and I've reread both of them several times since, and in my considered judgement, they're not at all alike. Not even close. Sure, (...) (21 years ago, 6-Mar-04, to lugnet.space, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: Sci Fi Novels --> movies
 
(...) Just a quick note from another SF reader, the Hammers Slammers series of books, in particular, "Cross the Stars" also has 2 FTL systems in it. And just in case you care, Cross the Stars is a SF version of the Odyssey. At least David Drake is (...) (21 years ago, 7-Mar-04, to lugnet.space, lugnet.general, FTX)

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  Re: Sci Fi Novels --> movies
 
A novel which has, inexplicably, never been filmed, is Alfred Bester's The Stars My Destination. This is surely one of the top ten greatest Sf novels ever. It was written by a veteran radio and TV writer as an intensely paced male action hero (...) (21 years ago, 6-Mar-04, to lugnet.space, lugnet.general, FTX)

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