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Re: Hypothetical design question
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Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:26:53 GMT
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In lugnet.space, George Haberberger wrote:

   No, light does exert force.

Correct.

   Have you ever seen those little glass bulbs with black and white squares of paper mounted on arms? Something sets them spinning.

Yes, *something* does. It’s not light though, since if it was light, they would spin in the black direction (with the black side leading the rotation).... (the momentum imparted to something perfectly reflecting is twice that of something being absorbed)

Instead, the spin in the white direction, and that’s because they are in an imperfectly evacuated chamber... what imparts motion is the differential between air temperatures on the black side and the white side. The black, absorbing energy, heats up air near it more than the white, reflecting energy, does.. and the air, bouncing off the black paddle and having much more mass than a photon does, swamps the momentum differential transfered by the reflected light that would tend to push it the other way

see here, for example:

http://www.theharrowgroup.com/articles/20030505/20030505.htm (then search for the word black and read in that area)

You guys need to learn to google better, IMHO.

   Also, a solar sail uses light propulsion, cf. Attack of the Clones and The Mote in God’s Eye.

Yes. IIRC someone was going to actually test one of these in real life but I dunno if it happened or not.



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