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| | | (3 URLs) The Empyrean Flame> Never again. It was a labour of love (all 1.2 metres of it), but the affair is over... It was fun to build, and I was glad to make a microscale (space)battleship with the features it has, but there's just too many (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.announce.moc, lugnet.build.microscale, FTX) !!
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Trevor Pruden
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| | | | | (...) Holy! That there be plumb sweet,she be! I here ya, Paul...she must have been tough to build and get right. But what an awesome result! I really enjoy the sleakness and the gun placement, particularly the squatness of the main turrest. The (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Thanks, I was very pleased with the engines given that I planned their whole design in my head over the course of an hour... I was running out of time the evening before leaving for Bricksmeet when I thought of those :-) Cheers, (URL) Sci-Fi (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Matthew Wightwick
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| | | | | Paul, Absolutely amazing, as ever. Like all the great builders (and they know who they are), your creations serve as both an inspiration and a daunting challenge to us also-rans. God bless, Matt W. (Who now has several dozen suspicious eyes looking (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) It's not a competition, it's an exhibition. There are no also-rans. The only prize is growth of one's building abilities. Ack, now I'm sounding all motivational. :-) Cheers, (URL) Sci-Fi LEGO> (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Jason Spears
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| | | | | (...) Absolutely astonishing. They both have good color placement, intritic detailing, and neat little micro space fighters. But the true achievement is how they almost resemble Mon Calamari battleships. I hadn't even thought it possible. Great (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Actually, that hadn't sprung to my mind... but I guess the overall form of the Lance does suggest the same sleekness. I love Star Wars (and have most of the spaceship toys), but I don't consciously look to it for inspiration. Cheers, (URL) (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Gil Shaw
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| | | | | (...) Gack. Ug. Fleegb.. I....wow. To be honest, it's going to take me a long while to come back with anything on these absolutely, gorgeous creatures of the void. There is simply too much to drink in all at once. Smacking me square in the face is (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah, I was pleased with the hangars, actually they were the main reason I made such big microscale ships - I wanted to make conceptually decent-sized hangar bays. (...) The pleasure is mine... I just wish I had a better camera. Cheers, (URL) (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Felix Greco
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| | | | | (...) Hi Paul, This is some of the best microfig work I've seen, for sure. Beautiful ships, indeed. Could you tell us what your inspiration was? (URL) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Glad you asked :-) Primarily Ken Takeuchi's (URL) and (URL) Sparta>. No surprise there. White and light-gray suggest large scale to me. But I wanted to take the concept in a sleeker direction, but for a while I wasn't sure how. So along comes (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —John R. Beck
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| | | | | (...) Paul, I think Lucasfilm ought to hire you to build their models. I've never liked the micro scale stuff. But you have converted me. My favorite feature is the hanger bays. Breathtaking. Is it longer than the blockade runner? John (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) The hangar bays were the main reason I even bothered building such a big microscale ship, really. It's a lot longer than the RBR, and heavier, despite containing a lot less wagon wheels... ;-) Cheers, (URL) Sci-Fi LEGO> (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Bas Brederode
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| | | | | HOW DARE YOU!!! Building ships of that magnitude? (...) I quote: "Oh, all they do is complaining!", offcourse this ship has to be dismantled, it's not allowed to have more LEGO bricks! : ) I love the hanger at the back, and the cute little fighters. (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) I promise never to do it again ;-) (...) Well, the trouble with the bottom is I never see it when it's sitting on the shelf, and bits on the bottom make it harder to place there, and it's too hard to photograph the bottom anyway :-) Cheers, (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | (...) These are so good it's disgusting, Paul. Ack thpt. A small part of me is disappointed that they aren't minifig scale ships. They're certainly large enough to contain minifig crew compartments. However, I think the ships being microfig gives (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) I know exactly what you mean. The majority of my stuff is minifig. (...) Well, it was the features I wanted that decided it, otherwise they would have been minifig scale (albeit slightly different designs). I wanted to make capital ships that (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —George Haberberger
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| | | | | (...) Paul, These are really amazing. Adding the details of the micro fighters on the flight deck make it even more impressive, good use of arrows. Darn those pirates! Thanks, George (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) The hangar bays are what the ships were all about, really. I'm glad you pointed out the arrows, I was really pleased with those. I'm thinking of making a microfig moonbase with similar runways using my leftover arrows. I just wish I could (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —James Wilson
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| | | | | Dude, you rock! These are very impressive! Bulgy details, greeblies, and more, oh my! The colors work well together, and did I detect interior lighting? On a technical note - are these digital photos, or scans of film? If digital, you can get the (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —John Henry Kruer
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| | | | | | | (...) I believe that they are taken with an old digitial camera. Not many cameras have a manual white balance, (mine doesn't and its MSRP was $400) but some of them might have selectable white-balance, in which you can choose incadecent, sunlight, (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Oops, I do believe I forgot to mention that both ships' windows and hangars are all interior-lit! It just photographs really badly. The engines light up a fiery red, too, again a Dragonstar influence. I'll mention the lighting in the builder's (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Chris Giddens
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| | | | | Ok, I'm sellin' my bricks. This is too good. Paul, Awesome work. I would love to see 'em in person! I have to say that my fav part is the launch bays... that's just too sweet. Darn you. (nice colors though *cough* PCS *cough*) (URL) Admiral Giddens (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Hartzog
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| | | | | | | (...) no, I'm sellin' mine first. to Paul, of course so he can continue to build more of these wonderful ships -paul (2 URLs) Paul Hartzog (URL) Et In Arcadia Lego> (custom sig image courtesy of CGidd) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —James Wilson
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| | | | | | | (...) 10 bucks for your entire collection! I'll even pay shipping. Hurry, this offer won't last long! :-) James Wilson Dallas, TX (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Well, if you wanna take an overseas trip to Australia... the hangar bays are what it was mostly about, else I probably would have just made something in minifig. (...) Actually, I'd always thought of them as Ken-tucky colours, but savour your (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —John Henry Kruer
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| | | | | (...) Holy Fleeb $&#*! Ugg. I'm not gonna post pictures of my new MOCs for about a month now. And I thought building a sixty-stud long ship was an achievment... What can I say. You shure broke your MOC silence with a big bang. More pictures of the (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Hartzog
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| | | | | (...) Paul, these are so fine that I'm going to spend some time giving feedback on the pics which I'll post separately per ship. Meanwhile, 1) are they going to stay together for a while? 2) are these going to be at any fests or cons? -paul (2 URLs) (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | | (...) The Lance, yes, the Flame, probably not. But I plan to build two similar capital ships from the components of the Flame. (...) Not on your continent! (I'm in Australia) It was bad enough transporting them to the neighbouring state! :-) Cheers, (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Didier Deses
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| | | | | | (...) Wooow... great pieces of work! I like the second one better, like the sleek shapes! It does have a SW mon calamari look. These are truly masterpieces! keep at it! greetings, Didier (21 years ago, 23-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Jeff Szklennik
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| | | | | (...) SNIP (...) SNIP (...) WOW. WOW. They're all infinitely beyond fantastic. I have to visually digest these for awhile. the small binocular-wing fighters are great. the whole acheivement reminds me of a fractal; the closer you look, it's still (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Funny you should say that - I worked with three detailing scales in mind: 1. Overall scale - the general form of the ship and shape of bulkheads. It worked well for the Lance, not so well for the Flame IMO. 2. Stud scale - the form given to (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Philip Painter
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| | | | | (...) These ships are fantastic. The fact they're "limited edition" makes them even more special. (URL) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Well, only the Flame is limited edition, really. I think the Lance is a comfortable maximum size/weight for a microfig capital ship; lots of room for detail, and still somewhat swooshable. In my chosen micro scale (1/8 minifig) it's about 450 (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | | Me too! I mean mind bogglingly awesome. :-) I actually like the main body of the "Flame" better than that of the "Lance" but I like the "Lance's" bow section better than that of the "Flame" There's really not much to say that hasn't already been (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Funny, the main body of the Flame is what I'm least happy with. I guess it's a shape I've seen before and I wanted something more distinctive. I'll be keeping the front of the Flame for a new ship anyway. Cheers, (URL) Sci-Fi LEGO> (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Ryan Rubino
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| | | | | (...) Amazingly rounded looking ships! I particularly enjoyed the large deeply seated "Ion Cannon" type weapon on the Athena. My eye was drawn to the support structure of alternating and opposing slopes a very nice touch, like almost everything else (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) The alternating slopes detail is one of my favourite ideas for the Lance, I'm glad you liked it. I thought I could have used a bit more angles and SNOT myself. My next one definitely will use them more. Cheers, (URL) Sci-Fi LEGO> (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Hartzog
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| | | | | (...) (URL) That pic really demonstrates the long gradual curves of the ship. Very nice. Also, the white frames the grey in a really nice way. There is a noticeable lack of exposed studs, another bonus. And the central gray struts are angled in (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Mainly an aftereffect, but I knew that the alternating slopes would give a distinctive impression anyway. Glad you pointed it out. (...) This is my favourite picture too. An action pic, but you can see a lot of the ship too. (...) They don't (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Eric Sophie
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| | | | | (...) WOW! These are fantastic! Geesh. they're great! I am so blown away! I couldn't bring myself to delete the above text. The thumbs in the post are part of the experience. I gotta say, while both Ships are superb. The Lance is so cool, I just (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Here, knock yourself out: (URL) But don't lose the Starfury... it's part of the experience! Cheers, (URL) Sci-Fi LEGO> (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Hartzog
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) You know, I agree, it's what I'm not quite happy with. And well spotted, a variant of the Sulaco front is what I was aiming for. (...) Actually, I was just running out of inverse slopes! But yeah, I thought it would look good to have some (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah, there's definitely a time and a place for stickers. That UCS X-Wing sticker sheet is great for microscale - but I would definitely pick and choose what parts I'm sticking them on. White parts worked well because the clear part of the (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Andrew Saada
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| | | | | (...) Nooooo! (...) I think it's safe to say perfect. Paul, These are terrific! I think Gil covered it: In lugnet.space, Gil Shaw wrote: (...) But I think what does it for these, besides the incredible detail and overall form, is the interplay of (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Brian Reynolds
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Allister McLaren
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| | | | | (...) So let me see if I understand this correctly. You're dissapointed with this one. Astonishing. you don't think the fighters could get a bit toated what with the approach to the hanger being in line with the thrusters though? (Although I suppose (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah, it's a compromise... the Lance has a better hangar bay configuration. (...) I expected to see you there... I think I even mistakenly called someone Allister once or twice. (...) Not for these, sadly - you see the result of much Photoshop (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Richie Dulin
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Thank you, Richie for organising the meeting, otherwise not many people would have had the chance! (...) Yeah, I agree. Although I mainly just chose white because I had a lot of it :-) Cheers, (URL) Sci-Fi LEGO> (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Keith Goldman
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| | | | | Kudos Paul the ships are epic, from a distance they realy do look like movie models. The greeblage was just about perfect, so much to absorb. You have raised the bar in microfig ship design. Outstanding work. -Keith (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Thanks Keith, actually I think a lot of the detail effect comes from the stickers/printing, they went well with just a modest amount of greeblies. Stickers and printed parts, if you find just the right application for them, can look really (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | (...) I want to reply to everyone but I probably won't have time as I'm at work! Thankyou all for your replies, it's much appreciated. Cheers, (URL) Sci-Fi LEGO> (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Gary Thomas
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| | | | | (...) I can't believe how good these are..... Reminds me of a SciFi art book from my childhood called 'Mechanismo'. LEGO, get your act together and hire guys like Paul. Take care, Gary (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | Excellent work, Paul! Great form and styling on both ships. I'm glad you made these ships in microfig scale. Obviously, it gave you much more freedom of design and it looks like you did have a lot of fun. I think you pulled it off very well at this (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Thanks Dan :-) (...) I guess, given all the interior stuff which is presumably what you mostly mean. I found that micro was a great way to concentrate on different kinds of ship features that I wouldn't work on in minifig. (...) Well, you (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Travis Matheson
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Yep, one big 9V battery pack each... ;-) (...) What can I say, I feel that it's my best effort so far. It's going to be hard to top it. (...) Go for it. I look forward to seeing it at a future MUGS meeting. Cheers, (URL) Sci-Fi LEGO> (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Felix Greco
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah. I'll give it a page with a few pics and some blurb in a week or two. Cheers, (URL) Sci-Fi LEGO> (21 years ago, 19-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Soren Roberts
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| | | | | Oh. My. Freakin'. God. Take care, Soren (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Sylvia Tresto
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| | | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Mladen Pejic
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| | | | (...) -snip- (...) -snip- (...) Sorry for the late reply. Anyways, where to start... WOW! Both of these MOCs are primo, not even primo, masterpieces. ;-) I just love how your passion and talent for building shine so brilliantly throughout these (...) (21 years ago, 27-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: The Flame and The Lance —Paul Baulch
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