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  Re: legOS in cybermaster
 
(...) Very difficult, as far as I know. The ROM is on the same chip as the processor! -Kekoa (25 years ago, 22-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: legOS in cybermaster
 
(...) How difficult is remove the ROM chip and add a RAM one? (...) (25 years ago, 22-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: legOS in cybermaster
 
(...) Sorry Jose, it is NOT possible. The cybermaster firmware is in ROM and may not be overwritten in any way. Ciao Mario Web page: (URL) member page: (URL) member of ItLUG: (URL) (25 years ago, 22-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  legOS in cybermaster
 
Has anybody try use some small version of legos in cybermaster? Is it posible? I'm thinking in a small program linked staticaly with legOS. (25 years ago, 22-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  CVS
 
Hello, I posted my 0.2.4 prerelease candidate in public CVS on legOS.sourceforge.net a minute ago. Sorry, there are no web pages available on sourceforge yet. You'll have to register with www.sourceforge.net to check out the sources, but that (...) (25 years ago, 21-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: gdb & legOS
 
(...) Markus> Hi Les, I've been advocating gdb for quite some time now, Markus> great to hear about your efforts. Hi Markus. Thanks for responding. Your input is much valued. Markus> You could also use an endless relative loop instruction Markus> (...) (25 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: OS Recommendations
 
(...) ld in the binutils) does not build correctly in LinuxPPC. ld gets all sorts of errors about 'relocation truncated to fit.' I've had the same results with egcs and gcc-2.95, which is making me suspect binutils & ld. Another list member had the (...) (25 years ago, 18-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: gdb & legOS
 
Hi Les, I've been advocating gdb for quite some time now, great to hear about your efforts. Les Smithson schrieb: (...) My manual says opcodes 0x57nn are unallocated on H8/300. Could this be a Super-H opcode? H8 gdb seems to be tinted in favour of (...) (25 years ago, 18-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: OS Recommendations
 
(...) From what I've heard, the gcc port to the mac is extremely old and ugly, and nobody's putting in the effort to make a better one. I see little point in making one now with MacOS X virtually right around the corner. Although now that I think (...) (25 years ago, 17-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  gdb & legOS
 
Hi All. I've been thinking about how gdb can be used to debug legOS programs. I've hashed most of it out, but one thing has me stumped -- how can I do a software trap on a H8300? I'd like to hear any suggestions as to how I can get round this. The (...) (25 years ago, 17-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: OS Recommendations
 
Martin Cornelius schrieb: (...) You'd need make, too. The configure scripts for those gcc, binutils and make will probably also require a shell of some variety. If there is a binary distribution of native gcc, make and bash for the Mac, building the (...) (25 years ago, 17-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) Michael, have you rebuilt lnpd with the transceiver.c i sent you ? The collision problem should completely go away then. I could also send you a statically linked version of my latest version of lnpd, just to check it isn't a compiler problem. (...) (25 years ago, 17-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: OS Recommendations
 
(...) well, actually legOS wasn't ported, because legOS is an OS for the RCX. What was ported to windows, but AFAIK mostly not by the legOS developers, was the compiler used to build legOS, speak: gcc for the Hitachi 8300 processor. Additionally (...) (25 years ago, 17-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: OS Recommendations
 
(...) Actually, NCQ on the mac just works fine. LegOS works fine under FreeBSD which works and install's fine under the VirtualPC (Just from a walnut creek cdrom). Linux works fine under the VirtualPC as well, but none of the install disk's I tried (...) (25 years ago, 17-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  OS Recommendations
 
I got my Mindstorms this summer, and I've been subscribed to the list since around the same time. Since then I've been playing around extensively with NQC. I haven't attempted to make the jump to legOS so far for two reasons. First, I have a Mac. (...) (25 years ago, 17-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
Thanks for you help Martin. I tried the uart stuff with no change except for this: From further testing I realised that the data that the IR Tower is sending is been recieved by the RCX (woohoo) even though a collision is reported for every sent (...) (25 years ago, 17-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: legos: Using dll with COM2
 
Both firmdl3 and dll should honor the environment variable RCXTTY. On Unix, you should probably set it in your .bashrc or .profile, like this: export RCXTTY="/dev/ttyS1" On Windows, you'll want to put this in your autoexec.bat: set RCXTTY=com2 Hope (...) (25 years ago, 16-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  legos: Using dll with COM2
 
Hi! How does one configure 'dll' to work with the tower connected on COM2? firmdl has a command line option, but I cannot find one for dll.... thanks for any help Vlad (25 years ago, 16-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  EGCS v. GCC
 
Why was egcs chosen over gcc? It is my understanding that the egcs extensions have been incorporated back into gcc as of version 2.9.5. Also, egcs development has been discontinued. I'm curious because I am working on a DJGPP (32-bit DOS) port of (...) (25 years ago, 16-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) Great! (...) No problem! :-) Of course it's better to keep everything in one place. Did you get some PHP-pages running for the documentation? I started with it, but could not finish due to lack of time... But I wil be happy to contribute. (...) (25 years ago, 15-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) There is a discussion that somewhere in their site about their HW setup. Suffice to say that it is multiple terabytes in HD size, 40+ processors, yadda, yadda. Reliability and bandwidth are not an issue, I don't think. (...) I have too give (...) (25 years ago, 15-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
Hi Luis, (...) That's great. The sourceforge server seems to have fairly decent bandwidth, judging from the speed legOS.sourceforge.net is coming up in my second window. (...) CVS is what attracted me in the first place. As repositories are (...) (25 years ago, 15-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) I actually just took care of it- legOS.sourceforge.net is now ours, and should be propagating towards your DNS servers as we speak. It'll be a few hours (their setup time) and probably Wednesday (my time- "Mathematical Foundations of Computer (...) (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
Martin Cornelius schrieb: (...) Luis said he was, a week ago. Markus. (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) Someway it looks like there is another problem with your setup, in near mode i have never seen the collision problem. Perhaps your encountering the problem reported by Toni: Obviuosly his uart does not work in 16450 mode, but does work in (...) (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
I applied the patch manually (ok. I admit it was fairly obvious where the changes had to be made) Maby I made a mistake applying the patch or something as I still get Collission errors. I tried two IR towers in both near and far mode, still the same (...) (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) hmm, once again it looks like we need a public place to exchange such things.. is anybody still looking after the sourceforge stuff ? (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  How about LegOS & IR "long range"?
 
Well. It's a bit strange that under LegOS you "must" work only in "near"/"short range" mode. So I've modified my kernel to work always in "far" or "long range" mode (that works with near too)... Now I'm able to upload kernel and .lx to my RCX placed (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Martin's Patch for LNPD and the LEGO Remote
 
Interestingly enough, this patch makes it possible for me to modify the code inside lnpd to allow it to receive signals from the Lego Remote (9738). Prior to the patch, I was getting a framing error whenever the remote sent a message with a single (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
The problem is that lines in Martin's original message got folded over by email. You'll have to bring the patch into an editor and combine lines 8 and 9 of the original post (be sure there is a space between "..time, " and "tx _..." Then combine the (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) Pardon, Mike, i should have anticipated that, because i had the same problem when i first tried to apply a patch. The usage of patch is a little uncommon: You have to provide the patch through stdin !. Thus, i'd suggest the following (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
No matter what I do (opening the window, turning on more lights etc) I can't get the tower to stop seeing collissions. I must admit that IR reflects so well in my house that the TV remote works form other rooms. So I tried loading your patch (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) i had never seen this interesting effect, because i always had my tower in near mode, where it only happens if you put the tower straight in front of a wall. I suspect it's a little more complex to explain what happens here, because the tower (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Windows NT Success Story!
 
Thanks a lot for this really helpful and detailed post! Especially thanks for making the result of your success story available for download. This allowed me to simply download the whole thing and start experimenting with legOS applications rather (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  RE: LNP Example please
 
I have observed the same behavior... only by night. I think it must be the tower receiving echoes of its own packets. The sollution: place the tower far away from objects that can reflect light (including yourself). I also changed the tower battery (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Example please
 
*Embarrased look* sorry I shouldn't of missed that.. Sorry to hassle you but I am stuck yet again. The lnptest program just records collision after collision. I have no other IR devices in the area (as far as I know anyway) It doesn't display any of (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: static version of lnpd uploaded to arthudent
 
(...) Should be up now. Sorry about the delay- I haven't been home in slightly over 24 hours :) -Luis ###...### Profanity is the one language that all programmers understand. -Anonymous ###...### (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Tactical Robot - A robot that play a board game REALLY!!!
 
-- ___...___ Ferrara Francesco Jeffrey Baldwin <Heatwaaave@aol.com> wrote in message news:FpGE5u.B4w@lugnet.com... (...) know (...) TAR Know when it win, and make some sounds when it is in advantage... (relative to its score!) I have spent 2-3 (...) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Example please
 
(...) Well, it's mentioned in the README ;-), but obviously not detailed enough. The problem is: the dynamic loader doesn't find the library you linked against. The dynamic loader is a program that is started whenever you execute a dynamically (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Example please
 
Just updated my libc version (I love apt-get on debian linux... woohoo... it took about 30 seconds to update about 6 core applications on my system with a single simple command !!) Ok. it now complies without a problem and lnp also appears to run (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)


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