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Re: My Concession (for John mostly)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 1 Apr 2003 06:56:09 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford writes:
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> > This doesn't sound to me like a country whose intentions "were that the war
> > was going to continue to the absolute bitter end" and Truman had full
> > knowledge of it.
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> Quite the contrary - see your quoted summary at the bottom. Japan had
> rejected the conditions of surrender (to whit, none) and the U.S. was under
> no obligation to pause in the war.
You asserted that "[japan's intentions] were that the war was going to
continue to the absolute bitter end". What has that to do with US obligation
to pause?
> In fact, it would have been a betrayal
> of the American people to do so.
This may be your opinion, but again has nothing to do with your original
assertion(s).
> Using Russia as a go-between was a poor
> choice by Japan - Russia stabbed 'em in the back. You cite endless contacts
> with the Russians, but the specifics of what was actually passed on to the
> U.S. are not given
No, but I think "Stalin had told P.M. [Prime Minister Churchill] of telegram
from Jap [sic] Emperor asking for peace" says that the Japanese had thought
about peace, and even proposed it to the Russians, and Truman knew that.
Again, I think that contradicts your original assertion(s).
ROSCO
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| (...) They didn't accept the call for unconditional surrender, war was continuing. I'm not sure why you aren't getting it, and I'm kinda tired of having to repeat it. (...) Go back to what Dave wrote: "recent evidence suggests that the Emperor was (...) (21 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: My Concession (for John mostly)
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| (...) Quite the contrary - see your quoted summary at the bottom. Japan had rejected the conditions of surrender (to whit, none) and the U.S. was under no obligation to pause in the war. In fact, it would have been a betrayal of the American people (...) (21 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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