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Re: My Concession (for John mostly)
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Date: 
Tue, 1 Apr 2003 01:48:51 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
If Iraq turned into the democratic ideal and the shining star of the region,
the loss of life and goods may end up having been worth it.

Can you cite even one example of where this has happened before?  Where else
have we bombed people into accepting democracy?

True, the absence of precedence doesn't make the occurrence of such a
democracy impossible, but I would suggest the likelihood of such an outcome
is almost nil.

I assume that you are discounting the two blaringly obvious examples for a
reason?  Germany?  Japan?  The latter we did literally bomb into submission
(WoMD, to add some irony).


However, recent evidence suggests that the emporer was about to surrender,
and that you yanks dropped the bomb to show the world your power.

Oh no!  Not the "should we have dropped 'the bomb'" debate again?!?  No,
despite lame attempts at recent revisionism, we had no way to know what
Japan intended beyond its action (which were that the war was going to
continue to the absolute bitter end).  The Emperor in fact could not
surrender until he had some face-saving way of doing it.  Viola!  Did him a
favor.

-->Bruce<--



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  Re: My Concession (for John mostly)
 
(...) Wrong. (URL) (which were that the war was going to (...) Wrong again. (...) Ah at last something approaching reality! 1 outta 3 aint bad. (...) Whatever you reckon. ROSCO (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) However, recent evidence suggests that the emporer was about to surrender, and that you yanks dropped the bomb to show the world your power. (...) Agreed Dave K (...) (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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