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Re: My Concession (for John mostly)
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Tue, 1 Apr 2003 00:17:08 GMT
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David Koudys wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
If Iraq turned into the democratic ideal and the shining star of the region,
the loss of life and goods may end up having been worth it.

Can you cite even one example of where this has happened before?  Where else
have we bombed people into accepting democracy?

True, the absence of precedence doesn't make the occurrence of such a
democracy impossible, but I would suggest the likelihood of such an outcome
is almost nil.

I assume that you are discounting the two blaringly obvious examples for a
reason?  Germany?  Japan?  The latter we did literally bomb into submission
(WoMD, to add some irony).

I'd say we pretty close to literally bombed Germany into submission
also...

However, recent evidence suggests that the emporer was about to surrender,
and that you yanks dropped the bomb to show the world your power.

Whatever the truth is here, it certainly is a case of warring them into
submission, and then going in and setting the groundwork for a
respected, productive contributor to the modern free world.

Frank



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  Re: My Concession (for John mostly)
 
Immediately before WW II, was Japan a straight out monarchy, or a constitutional monarchy? I don't think I have ever looked into that precise aspect of world history. If it were a flat out monarchy, then I'd agree that we have at least one or two (...) (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: My Concession (for John mostly)
 
(...) However, recent evidence suggests that the emporer was about to surrender, and that you yanks dropped the bomb to show the world your power. (...) Agreed Dave K (...) (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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