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Re: My Concession (for John mostly)
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Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:11:21 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> > > If Iraq turned into the democratic ideal and the shining star of the region,
> > > the loss of life and goods may end up having been worth it.
> >
> > Can you cite even one example of where this has happened before? Where else
> > have we bombed people into accepting democracy?
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> > True, the absence of precedence doesn't make the occurrence of such a
> > democracy impossible, but I would suggest the likelihood of such an outcome
> > is almost nil.
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> I assume that you are discounting the two blaringly obvious examples for a
> reason? Germany? Japan? The latter we did literally bomb into submission
> (WoMD, to add some irony).
However, recent evidence suggests that the emporer was about to surrender,
and that you yanks dropped the bomb to show the world your power.
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> > Given that logic, I'll stick with my "accomplice after the fact" statement.
> > If you didn't support the war, now is a good time to support strategic
> > withdrawal. After all, our best intelligence is so far proving itself to
> > have been wrong.
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> That we have committed this far (foolishly) it would seem a waste at this
> point to have caused such havoc to no good end. Get Saddam and be done with
> it, at least it would be a Pyrrhic victory rather than a complete
> ignominious defeat (Bush may deserve the latter, but the troops don't).
Agreed
Dave K
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> -->Bruce<--
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| (...) I'd say we pretty close to literally bombed Germany into submission also... (...) Whatever the truth is here, it certainly is a case of warring them into submission, and then going in and setting the groundwork for a respected, productive (...) (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Oh no! Not the "should we have dropped 'the bomb'" debate again?!? No, despite lame attempts at recent revisionism, we had no way to know what Japan intended beyond its action (which were that the war was going to continue to the absolute (...) (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I assume that you are discounting the two blaringly obvious examples for a reason? Germany? Japan? The latter we did literally bomb into submission (WoMD, to add some irony). (...) That we have committed this far (foolishly) it would seem a (...) (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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