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Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
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Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:53:47 GMT
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And don't get me started on Jesus. Third hand eyewitness accounts just
aren't much use in proving things.


Oh, I am quite satisfied he existed, just not as or in the fashion as
described in the bible. Artistic license is possibly the best way to
describe the acts and miracles with which he is attributed.
The absence of him having been recorded by the Romans is significant?
(I heard that he was never mentioned).
I would suggest that, yes, he did exist, but was more than likely
no more than a benevolent, kind individual, whom later generations, and
some of the time, suggested him as a messiah. The type of individual
appears throughout history, 2 modern examples being Gandhi and Martin
Luther King Jr. The example I am trying to portray being that of an
individual fighting the suppression of his people by another power.
The philosophies expoused by them were of peace and religion. The
Romans would no doubt have thought him to be a subversive, and treated
him as such. (As had happened.......)
Am I making sense? Is the point I am trying to make clear?

I hope that the belivers of Christ would not be offended by this analysis,
though I am sure even questioning it is likely to rub some the wrong way.

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  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
Richard Dee wrote: < Jesus existed.> Agreed. < Jesus was not the son of god.> Agreed. (26 years ago, 16-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) I'm gonna retract this, it was said hastily. It's difficult to prove or disprove the existence of out of system things starting from within a system. But I'll say that I've personally satisfied myself of the implausability of the Christian (...) (26 years ago, 16-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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