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(...) John, Q. Who trained OBL? [A. USA] Q. Who helped SH get WOMD? [A. USA] Q. Which nation has sloppy bio-security [A. USA et al] Q. Which nation has threatened to use nukes in the ME [A. USA] Q. If SH does have WOMD, what scenario would make him (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I had no clue what else he had on the rest of his page. I would never have thought that someone would put something up religeous in nature in a maner such as I interpreted the Brick Testament on one page and then the kind of discusting and (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No *you* believe in *your* freedom. (...) That's another problem solved! Scott A (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who knows? But there are not too many identifiable folk who have not assimilated. That nobody really understands precisely what a helot was, is one demonstration. I know of a story of one annihilated city whose survivors petitioned their (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bull. I don't trust John Ashcroft to protect anyone's rights. Nor did I trust Janet Reno either. Did you even look at the "Habeas Corpus" post I posted? "sounds convenient" indeed. (...) I don't trust that the president isn't so wacked. (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bad example. Because we DID concentrate on Italy first. We did a holding action in the pacific, rolled through Africa and up into Italy and then opened yet another front in europe via Normandy. Only once the war was won did we switch focus to (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If anything, the true beauty of The Brick Testament (aside from the incredible modelling and stunning photography) is that it avoids controversy almost completely by simply telling the stories of the Bible without actually changing them. Who (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, not to sound insensitive, but if OBL attacked Canada, I would care a lot less than I do now. Part of that may be human nature. Millions of people die every day, but I'd care a whole lot more if one of them was in *my* family. >Show me (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fair enough :-) (...) That is true, although it does not tell us what happened to the slaves *in time*: did their descendents eventually gain citizenship? Were they assimilated? The city state, having been overrun, was it rebuilt? Did the (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am saying that I care *more* *because* it happened to me, as you would if OBL had leveled Buckingham Palace and 1,000s of *your* countrymen were murdered. You just don't get it. If not for the courageous actions of a handful of Americans, (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) First, what does it matter which skyscraper was levelled? If it was Bloor and Yonge that was 'ground zero' and a year+ later JC was going on some campaign against someone who wasn't even *involved* in the attack, of course we'd call his (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Darn right, because we happen to believe in freedom. (...) Ah, the "truth" about global warming? Let me ask you Dave, how much global warming are you experiencing up there? None for me here, either! (...) Just answer my question, Dave. Would (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The term "moronic" is patently condescending, thus making it indeed a cheap shot. Further, you may not agree with this logic: 1) Sadam has or is developing WMD. 2) Sadam is sympathetic to terrorist organizations 3) OBL is the leader of a (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sheesh, Larry why don't you go ahead and tell folks that Santa doesn't exist while you're at it. You bubble-burster you. Greg P.S. Mine wasn't a snicker - it was an all out snort! (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I completely concur with Bruce. I know that RBPS is not a church going/God believing person, but that does not negate my appreciation of his retelling of the Bible in LEGO one little bit! I look forward to the latest additions to his (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why is that? Do you not care unless you are the victim? (...) My point is that talk is better than violence. (...) It has worked better than violence - that is my point. (...) The "right" will be happy that you think that is what the problem (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, Just to throw in my two cents, I'm a highly religious person who very much enjoys Brendan's work. He is being fairly true to the text*. So a view of the impact of his work really rests on your view of the underlying text. If you are a (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I spoke too soon on many fronts-- First (URL) is the aide handed in her resignation again, and this time JC accepted. Quoteth from the article " Ducros apologized for her comment last week and offered to resign, but Chrétien rejected her (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) Not to hijack this thread back to the original topic of insulting one another... But quoting Larry... since no one has responded directly to the original issue of 'tomfoolery' across our (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think we can agree that wackos come in all favors. (...) I am not for silencing criticism, but I think that insults are not necessary. How about *constuctive* criticism-- that's what I'd like. (...) I don't watch TV, much less own cable, so (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well that's certainly ONE view of what he's doing, yes. Please forgive me for snickering out loud when I read the above paragraph, though. Ronald, you may want to check your assumptions a lot more carefully before you proclaim that you're sure (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.build.ancient, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But there's nothing like a Pearl Harbor or 9-11 to jolt one's senses. The sad truth is that a bloody nose is *exactly* what it takes. (...) And what if she does? What the hell does that have to do with anything? (...) Please. Diplomacy has (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That might be more common. Could ask the Statistics of Deadly Quarrels research folks about the majority. So maybe not so many whole civilizations, but certainly city-states and isolated population centers. Philip II at Thebes. Alexander at (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One could compare it to a much more present situation :-) (funny how History repeats itself over and over again) (...) Are you sure that so many wars ended that way? From my own experience, I think it's a lot more common that the "losers" of (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Read of the end of Carthage: (URL) skip the last paragraph where Scipio compares Carthage to Troy. Innumerable wars have ended with complete annihilation of the enemy. The world is littered with dead cities, dead languages, untraceable peoples. The (...) (23 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Rome vs. Carthage, the three Punic Wars. The third was pure force, resulting in the total anihilation of Carthage (even in physical terms) and enslavement of the surviving carthaginians. That is, in fact, a permanent solution. Question is, is (...) (23 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have heard it thru American friends this weekend that companies that make pharmaceuticals will be protected from lawsuits for 'known side effects', should this bill pass. Again, could be rumour, but that's a little scary if true. Dave K (23 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, here's a brief interesting historical interpretation: (URL) entire article (the good bit is closer to the end of the article, listing a bunch of, shall we say, more colourful metaphors used by American and Canadian folks): Editorial: (...) (23 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps it should not take a bloody nose for anyone to see the truth about terrorism? (...) lol (...) I feel sorry for you. What do you do if you disagree with your wife? Does she beat you until you do agree, or do you talk the problem over? (...) (23 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps it should not take a bloody nose for anyone to see the truth about terrorism? (...) lol (...) I feel sorry for you. What do you do if you disagree with your wife? Does she beat you until you do agree, or do you talk the problem over? (...) (23 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're injecting another issue into the discussion, which I will address in a moment. In any case, let's consider what you're saying: You're claiming that conservative talking heads can't be called demagogues as long as they are open about (...) (23 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Is there an online version of the full +/- 400 page bill? I'd like to see which corporations have been removed from accountability and which have been rewarded for creating unemployment and for dodging tax responsibility. Thanks! Dave! (23 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Give it a rest. I wrote this post in an effort to stop your disruptive behaviour: (URL) man enough to either stick to the issues or keep quiet. Scott A (23 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I prefer Mike Huben's analysis: "The Libertarian Party is well on its way to dominating the political landscape, judging from its power base of 100+ elected dogcatchers and other important officials after 25 years of effort." ;) More here: (...) (23 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't know-- Jesus was too much on the straight and narrow to drive a fried-out Combi. I'd see him more at the helm of the Patridge Family bus, and if he were driving in road-rage-ravaged LA, the sign on the back of the bus would say, (...) (23 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just like a rebellious child: his dad had a Plymouth (God drove Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, "in a Fury!" - thank you, Scott Ostler). Yeah, if Jesus had to actually drive himself (SoCAl) it would be a VW MicroBus. (...) I thought the (...) (23 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd also go with the VW bus. I think it has to do with the stereotypical image of Jesus left over from Sunday school mixed up with childhood memories of hippies-- it's easy to imagine Jesus driving up Highway 1 giving rides to hitchhiking (...) (23 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He'd take public transportation, without a doubt. The Apostles would shift for themselves (was that an unintentional anti-automatic transmission joke?). I suppose the more interesting question is what would Satan drive? -->Bruce<-- Who drives (...) (23 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You mean "VW"? And would that be before or after his sex change operation? -John (23 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think you have it backwards, Dave! None of the above would claim to be unbiased-- they are honest and open about their conservative leanings. It's the print media, the networks, public radio who disingenuously pass themselves off as "fair (...) (23 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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