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| | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Steve Berry
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| | | | (...) No, I just didn't think it was called for or necessary in a discussion about LEGO trains. And regarding the off-topic threads on your beliefs, I wasn't even aware they were going on since I don't normally read the off-topic newsgroup. Maybe I (...) (26 years ago, 11-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Matthew Bates
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| | | | | (...) I have to side with Larry on this one. He's building a <Christmas> Lego Train, why can't he add a footnote to explain why he's building a Christmas train even though he doesn't believe in the Christ part? Sure, if that had been the topic of (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Steve Berry
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| | | | | | (...) even >though he doesn't believe in the Christ part? Sure, if that had been the topic (...) Matt, No offense, but could you be taking Larry's side on this because he comes close to your own ideological stance on this issue? Or, is it because, (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) How about neither of the above? I think you're the one being divisive, Steve. If you take umbrage at someone pointing out that they're not christian but decided to build a train with Santa on it anyway, you're way off base. Try not to pass (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Jim Baker
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| | | | | | | Also sprach Steve Berry: : No offense, but could you be taking Larry's side on this because he comes : close to your own ideological stance on this issue? Or, is it because, as you : say, footnoting something divisive in a Trains newsgroup is o.k.? (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Matthew Bates
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| | | | | | | (...) Neither. I don't think that jumping down Larry's throat because he celebrates Christmas because it's fun, was appropriate in a discussion group about Lego trains. Matt (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) I'm certainly not an atheist, but if I were to decide to choose "sides" in this very small, very insignificant disagreement, I would have to side with him. Little footnotes at the end of a message just aren't that big a deal, especially worded (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Michael Ulring
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| | | | | | (...) Well I thought I was going to sit this one out - it hits a little too close to home being a PK (1) and all. But what Mike spelled out above seems to pretty well capture my thoughts. I'll add the following rambling... There is no escaping the (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Richard Dee
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| | | | | | Try Hindus or Buddists, (...) Buddhists are atheists, actually. Assuming a single, omnipotent being..... All religion has one root, from which stems numerous flavours. Too many similarities exist amongst all beliefs (and lack of, as appropriate!) to (...) (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) I don't believe that Atheism acknowledges the possibility of a god. That would be Agnosticism. At least my particular brand of Atheism doesn't. Any mention of the possibility of the existence of a being more perfect than any other by me has (...) (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Jim Baker
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| | | | | | | Also sprach Larry Pieniazek: : I am quite satisified that the impossibility of a god existing has been : proven beyond the shadow of a doubt. And most(1) theists agree. After : all, they state that one must put aside logic and take things on faith, (...) (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Matthew Bates
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| | | | | | | | (...) By that logic, there are a whole bunch of really cool Lego elements that exist that I don't seem to be able to get hold of, like those 1x4x5 thin walls with train windows in them [1] and of course, train window & door service packs. Also, (...) (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I'd be willing to argue that you are not, but I'd defend your right to hold your wrong-headed beliefs if you insist on illogically professing your faith in your supreme being-given right to do so. (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | (...) yes well, there's plenty of promo sets nobody knows anything about - who says the silver Metroliners weren't a promo available just in northern alaska from Exxon tank stations for those clients buying over 1 million barrels of oil? Jasper (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Richard Dee
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| | | | | | | (...) And I thereby prove my point! (Or so I think.....). You sternly state a disbelief in a god, or a being more perfect than yourself. (Perhaps less imperfect might be a more useful term here, lest someone thinks this is an attack on you (...) (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Duane Hess
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| | | | | | | | (...) OK, since Larry is more elequent than myself and arguably better educated, does this mean that he is superior to me and thus my god? I now bow down to the Great Larry. (26 years ago, 16-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Richard Dee
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| | | | | | | | | Duane Hess wrote in message ... (...) premise (...) I had feared this might have been the interpretation, thought about it as I wrote it, but decided to leave it in. Vastly more superior....open to interpretation as to what comprises "vastly more," (...) (26 years ago, 16-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Thanks, but please no idol worship (or idle worship either, for that matter).... My feet are made of clay. :-) (and still have brick imprints from the last time I stepped on one). However, if I WERE a god, why then, I'd have all the train (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | (...) What about those who send you thousands of bricks? (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Depends on the bricks, of course, but anyone who sends thousands of bricks AS A LOVE OFFERING (1) certainly will be held in my highest esteem. (2) 1 - which rules you out, since I pay you for the thousands you send me. 2 - and I have some (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | lugnet.off-topic.FUN —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | | | | | | Arg. This thread ("The meaning of Christmas", etc.) was okay in lugnet.off-topic.debate, but please, please, *please* don't bring it into off-topic.fun. Or at least, please change the subject line so we know it's a fun message, not a debate/flamewar (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Good point, I felt that at this point this subthread was pretty silly so I set followups here. But I forgot to change the subject line to point out that it had shifted into silliness. Mea culpa. I still will take any and all LOVE OFFERINGS for (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Oo, Latin. Does that mean anything significant? :) (...) If I "tithe" a tenth of all my collection, you are going to help me out with many lego blessings when I need them, right? Including those blessings that I don't even know that I needed (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) As my little brother would say, "my bad." My fault is how I would translate it. (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | | <F44o5D.CrL@lugnet.com> <slrn77j9va.jo.cjc@V...S.UTK.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) I defer, of course, but I have always thought about it around "culpa" which is the root of culpability, so I (...) (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) culpa, culpae f. guilt, error, fault, defect. in culpa esse - to be to blame (...) Wow, you expanding on my succinct statement. :) Yeah, we're both right, essentially. (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) It wasn't so much as what the term meant, as rather a question of Latin being your "official" language with which you would communicate (with) the masses. :) I shoulda been more clear... From Tom McDonald Anti-spam block in place. (URL) what (...) (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Tua culpa. :) Jasper (26 years ago, 21-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Wow, the Archangel Michael has a nice ring to it, doesn't it? :) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Chris Moseley
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | (...) (URL) the next time the stock price crosses the 200 day MA going up... (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Gary Louie
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Chris Moseley
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| | | | | | | | | Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <3683CA89.66EB9689@c...AM.com>... (...) All Hale Larry! (...) Well come Garry. Chief Profit Moz (26 years ago, 25-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Gary, whatever you do, don't drink the kool-aid! ;-) (26 years ago, 28-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Gary Louie
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Urp! Uh...too late! Gary GaryLouie@EarthLink.Net (26 years ago, 29-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) ROTFLMLO (lips) (...) ROTFLTTFML (trying to find my lips) From Tom McDonald Anti-spam block in place. (URL) what you can, but behave yourself. We'll have more, right after this. (26 years ago, 29-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Tim McSweeney
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | | Not wanting to get too serious in .fun, but that comment was tasteless, disrespectful, and not fun. (...) (26 years ago, 14-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Tim McSweeney
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Tim McSweeney
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Larritarians of the world, unite. —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —James Aldrich
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| | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Richard Dee
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| | | | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | Richard Dee wrote: < Jesus existed.> Agreed. < Jesus was not the son of god.> Agreed. (26 years ago, 16-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Jim Baker
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| | | | Also sprach Steve Berry: : Anyway, I can't speak for other people with SIGS, but I make it a point not to : voice or interject my personal beliefs in discussions unrelated to those : beliefs. I have to disagree with you here, Steve (and stick up for (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update —Steve Berry
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| | | | (...) Jim, frankly, I think you're as close-minded as you say I am. I always get a kick out of how liberals and atheists always say how open-minded they are, yet as soon as someone of a Christian persuasion or someone from a different ideological (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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