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  Re: Just say no
 
(...) Not sure what Buckley's driving at, honestly. Any article that cites anything "wonderful" about an Ann Coulter book surely qualifies as delusional from the get-go, but of course I'm not one to dismiss an argument simply because its proponent (...) (20 years ago, 17-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Just say no
 
Or, what do common sense and US government policy have in common? (URL) very little! (20 years ago, 17-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Last time for this, then post whining elsewhere (was: Re: I must leave...)
 
(...) Well, that's very good Kevin, you found what happened here on Lugnet. And, that is where it started. If I had not deleted the e-mails, I would post some words from them. Those e-mails are not here on Lugnet, but were in my e-mail account. I am (...) (20 years ago, 17-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
Hello! (...) Sort of. (...) You must be mistaking me for somebody else. I am the guy who starts a posting with "hello" and closes it with "bye". And who are you? Bye Jojo (URL) (20 years ago, 17-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) Gil, nice Gamesters reference. I'll put 400 quatloos on the newcomer! -Keith (20 years ago, 16-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: I must leave...
 
(...) Then don't. Ignore it - that's what he was saying. (...) So leave. I don't know you, haven't ever corresponded with you as far as I know. But Adrian was right on, first in putting this in .debate, where it belongs, and second on calling your (...) (20 years ago, 16-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: I must leave...
 
Adrian, I really hate to start anything, but this behavior that you have exhibited in front of all of your peers (and the world, this being the world wide web), Is just the kind of immature, "I'm trying to start something" that is being disscused in (...) (20 years ago, 16-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) I really have been thinking of not replying to this until I read your response. Now I think you should listen up. As someone who has borrowed from designs, and had my designed modified and borrowed as well, I don't mind someone doing that (...) (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) Actually, this is not true. Why just the other day I saw both strip to the waist and fight like psuedo-men....sort of 'Fight Club' meets 'Gamesters of Triskellion'. Well....fight like slightly perturbed kittens, anyway. (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) I would like to add some clarification on this: A curator is someone who provides upkeep to a particular newsgroup, such as keeping the sidebar links up-to-date, etc. This position carries no particular authority, except as a bully pulpit. (...) (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) So... what you are saying is that you first appropriated their designs... THEN waited for them to notice... THEN gave them credit? Isn't that like stealing something, waiting for the victim to notice the theft, then giving the victim credit (...) (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) Yes, sculptures are covered by copyright, and there are also some artist rights, retained by the artist even after selling the sculpture and all copyrights to it. Design Patent protection is not automatic, and it's expensive and has a limited (...) (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) Independant discovery is a defense that works for copyright violation, including copyright protection of design. The problem here is that if you are defending an infringement suit, you have to prove that you didn't have constructive access to (...) (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) I'm obviously not an IP lawyer. My impression is that Lucasfilm owns the copyrights to the image/design of an X-wing. Lego could not produce a kit that resembles anything like an x-wing without first obtaining Lucas's permission. Likewise I (...) (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) more snip-age (...) Thanks for the info. I guess I was considering that a moot point since neither one of them had obtained the film company's permission first. I think that is something worth discussing since to achieve the end result of a (...) (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) Hmm, is a MOC actually covered by copyright? It may only be protected by design patents, which I don't think are automatic. Are sculptures protected by copyright? Frank (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) The above is somewhat mistaken. While selling, or theoretically creating, a moc based on a Gunstar would require the permission of the ownere (the movie company most likely) this doesn't mean that the first MOC maker doesn't also have IP here. (...) (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) Indeed. As an example of this: When Ryan Wood decided to sell kits of his (URL) Floating Heads Sportscar>, he first contacted Tim Deering, creater of the floating heads. If I am not mistaken, Tim was very cordial and of course allowed Ryan to (...) (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) Giving Lee the benefit of the doubt, it is clear he doesn't understand the difference between copying someone's construction techniques and copying someone else's designs. Furthermore he does not understand the legal/moral differences between (...) (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) It is most certainly on-topic for LEGO. It should be in lugnet.market.theory. Followup to lugnet.admin.nntp. (20 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.admin.nntp, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) Now this couldn't have been that hard to find, could it? Collin is one of the most prominent members of FBTB. Here is his profile: (URL) includes a private message link. Given that Brickshelf no longer gives full names, you must have had some (...) (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kevin Blocksidge wrote: SNIP (...) Hi Kevin, I think you are correct in terms of your suggestions, as I believe it really is not worth it to sell other people's designs that I have modified or based ships on. Clearly from (...) (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) Spot on. Personally, I think this is a bit of a storm in a teacup. I don't think any of these models actually sell do they? A (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) Agreed. Furthermore, I believe Chris drew inspiration exclusively from this picture: (URL) Both are fine ships, as well. (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) Chris's SMAC was influenced exclusively by this: (URL) -Grand Admiral .space Curator (URL) (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) (2 URLs) Howdy, This is really interesting, takes me back to good old college days when we talked about plagerism. And begs the question where do we draw the line? Where does taking an idea and using it become plagerism. How far is that line. (...) (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) It is condescrending, because you deserve such treatment. You are a thief. My first post did not outright say it so clearly, but after reading your various responses, you have proven it. You knowingly copy the designs of others for personal (...) (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) Hello Jason To answer your first question, I don't know if anyone here has any proofs. I made that clear in my previous post and I did say I was merely giving an opinion based on what I read, which didn't mention the fact that there was (...) (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
Notice that I've put my Admin identity on for just this post. When I am done, I'll go back to being a real person with real opinions, but not in this post. (...) OK, let's take it down a notch please. While this conversation has had some strong (...) (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) 1st - How do you know he doesn't have the "necessary" proofs? 2nd - Noone here at Lugnet is a "moderator", as it has been stressed many times before, Lugnet doesn't moderate (censor) posts. He is a member of the Lugnet Transition Team, but (...) (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) please send all future replys to this thread to lugnet.off-topic.debate. it no longer belongs in buy-sell-trade. ondrew (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: To David T Johnson, Acting ambassador, US Embassy, London
 
(...) there. Whoever chaired that commission seems to actually be clued in... - start - If there is one overarching goal they share, it is the overthrow of what Islamists call the“apostate” regimes: the tyrannies of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, (...) (20 years ago, 12-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Bush is a Wise Man
 
(URL) right Adr. (20 years ago, 9-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The PATRIOT act is a fine law!
 
(...) Er, oops! (currently within 20 miles of the worlds largest naval base... Santa Claus is waterskiing outside my balcony) (20 years ago, 8-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The PATRIOT act is a fine law!
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: [SNIP] (...) Hi Larry, yeah, I did pick up on that. I just didn't want to blow your cover on that by blurting it out.... :) Lee (20 years ago, 8-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  K, more for a smile than anything...
 
(URL) New Mexico (AP) -- An American T-shirt company has a solution for their fellow citizens who want to vacation in Europe without having to answer questions about U.S. politics -- pose as Canadians. " The bit that made me smile-- " When it comes (...) (20 years ago, 7-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: To David T Johnson, Acting ambassador, US Embassy, London
 
(...) Which goes part and parcel with this paper-- (URL) if ya don't feel like slugging thru that, see a journalistic synopsis-- (URL) off great-- "THE Pentagon has admitted that the war on terror and the invasion and occupation of Iraq have (...) (20 years ago, 6-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  To David T Johnson, Acting ambassador, US Embassy, London
 
From the pages of the Guardian... Dear Mr Johnson, On November 26, your press counsellor sent a letter to the Guardian taking strong exception to a sentence in my column of the same day. The sentence read: "In Iraq, US forces and their Iraqi (...) (20 years ago, 6-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The PATRIOT act is a fine law!
 
(...) Agreed. it's very frightening. (in case you couldn't tell, I was being sarcastic with my Subject line and statements....) (20 years ago, 6-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The PATRIOT act is a fine law!
 
(...) Hi Larry, gotta tell you, there are many parts of PAI and PAII I am very unhappy about, as a conservative. While I think it is good for the FBI and CIA to be able to talk with each other regarding terrorism and share info, these sneak and peek (...) (20 years ago, 6-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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