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OK, I already stated that I wish I never posted in the first place, and I regret my rant ten-fold now. The train models are not my best work by far. Thus, I'm not really sure why I bothered to mention work I didn't put my best effort into. I think I (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Because Lar mentioned the space newsgroup in a possibly disparaging manner and I didn't want to comment on it without also x-posting it to the right newgroup. It seemed the fair thing to do. Otherwise it would have felt like talking about a (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote: (...) OK, everyone. This wasn't my intent. I didn't want anyone to look bad. I didn't want to push anyone's arguments into another thread to make them seem unimportant. I didn't realize that moving this (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Why did this thread get cross posted to .space? The original post was in Trains and CAD. -Grand Admiral (URL) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Study: Misperceptions About Iraq War Contributed to Support For It (URL) The three common mistaken impressions are that: U.S. forces found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. There's clear evidence that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein worked closely (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, I agree. People are a little too quick to move things over into off-topic without really having a reason for doing so. Anyway, I apologize for thinking it was you, Lar. I didn't follow the thread closely enough to see that it was (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Just because you ask this question repetitiously doesn't mean it hasn't been answered already, either directly or by a link to an article somewhere. I have answered this question multiple times in this forum before it was asked by you. And (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So why move it? I did not realise it had been moved till after I responded to the post, had I seen that Tony was trying to move it I would have set it back. I think it was totally inappropriate to move it, actually, and especially in what is a (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So Liberals shouldn't criticize his behavior lest they politically incorrectly "judge" the morays of another culture;-) As for the Young Republican meetings-- I doubt he started attending them before his first million earned;-) (...) The (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sorry, I don't buy it. (...) Precisely point out Bush's "lie" about Iraq. Be prepared to show that he knowingly and deliberately, and also specifically (I want quotations) misinformed. (...) I don't know what to make of the media in (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Let's get something clear, the British established slavery, not America. The same British who founded (ummm) stole Canada. -->Bruce<-- League of Green-Eyed Devil's Advocates (well, okay, they idiotically kept it, but they ain't my political (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) According to one guy who witnessed one of Arnold's excesses, Arnold said that's how he did it in Austria, so Hollywood has nothing to do with it (in fact, most of these incidents date to his pre-Hollywood period - maybe he learned them at (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Your comment is off-topic in this thread, but perfect for this forum...maybe you could start a thread on slavery. But first read Madison's notes on the convention -- slavery did not easily get a pass. And the Civil War is proof of that fact. (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Let's for a moment assume these women are being 100% honest. The difference between coming forward back then vs. now is maybe the difference of having a bad momentary encounter vs. the bad guy becoming your elected representative. Think about (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) The logic of your political forebearers included slavery. Dave K (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yep. Spoke to this already. .Trains is a big place. (...) Larry, I'm sorry for any miscommunication. My wish that you have a good day was sincere, not out of any hidden message that I thought you were grumpy. As it was, I was open about what I (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hop-Frog, I moved it, because I didn't think of that, and because it wasn't really about trains. But you're right about appropriate behavior being discussed in the given newsgroup - the reason for my original reply. Thank you for your (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: (snip) (...) Though I do not condone the "groping" of women, I think his behavior in the context of Hollyweird is probably par for the course. What is interesting to me is that these women (some (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Of course they do. People can do and feel anything they want. Is that what you tell your wife when she is annoyed with you -- that she doesn't have the right to feel as she does? I understand that your claim is that insult was not intended, (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I reread my original reply. I didn't see it. I know my intent and I know it wasn't intended. In general, you (as a generic reader) don't have the right not to be insulted by what other people write. But if it came across that way to a lot of (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Do gun laws prevent violence? Health officials don't know (URL) ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) --A sweeping federal review of the nation's gun control laws -- including mandatory waiting periods and bans on certain weapons -- found no proof such measures (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Eeeet izzz trash poh-lo-teecs! Und I vish to ahh-poh-lo-gize to the vemmen I hoff fon-dohld. Sieg Heil, mein Fuhrer! I can valk! Heck, even Ahhhnuld has a Strangelovian two-minded reaction to the charges (and I got to sneak in an oblique (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Scott: I might be one of the few people that might respond to this, so I will. But in reality this subject is just a sideshow. Sadly, this probably has at least a little to do with the way many Californians are going to vote the way they will next (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I haven't seen this discussed here so I thought I would bring it up. On Wednesday the LA Times launched a huge hit piece against Schwarzenegger, with four negative articles including a front page story about Arnold's alleged indiscressions. It (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Love the sinner, hate the sin. ;) Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Too true. Billions down the hole, and the net result of this "cowboy diplomacy" is that everyone hates the U.S. as never before. Wonderful! -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If true, I'd expect lots of snarling "conservatives" would have jammed it down our throats by now. It's just a case of wishful thinking (on your part). ;) Scott A Have you had a look at Arthurs Seat Yet? (2 URLs) (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The article stated: "It did not say when or how the smugglers entered Kuwait or when they were arrested." So basically, these are weapons in Kuwait. Yeah, I guess the U.S. is not completely in bed with Kuwait. The rest is speculative as far as (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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No Smoking Gun, No Imminent Threat.... and No Surprise? My personal view on SH before we bombed him was that: He probably did have some form of WoMD. He would use them if threatened. He did not represent an imminent threat to the region or the (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) At this point a lot of people are in "don't cry wolf with me any more" mode... I know I am. We know Saddam had WMD at some point, that's not in dispute, he used them on his own people. We know Saddam was a very very bad man, that's not in (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Has anyone else heard of this story? If true, it would be big news IMO-- I wonder why it hasn't been picked up (by conservatives; I know why liberals might want to ignore it;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The bigger question is: does free trade, or a free market, really exist in the first place? My answer is: "No." As a consequence of that, everything can be seen as pandering to a particular interest group. Even if we had a truly and perfectly (...) (21 years ago, 2-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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From USA Today: (URL) President Bush (news - web sites) has departed from the Republican Party's deep-seated belief that open markets lead to stronger economies, more jobs and higher living standards. Last year, his shortsighted moves to raise (...) (21 years ago, 2-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Next step... (was Re: Interesting idea...?!)
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(...) Why don't they move to Iraq? The government is so small there these days as to be completely nonexistent. Plus, the line about "not to invade, but to restore liberty" would be perfectly in line with the stated goals of the Shrub (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The envelope please. And, the winning state (or losing depending on your outlook) is: Ne Hampshire! Live free or die Libertarian! "Where not here to invade and take over, but to restore liberty," said one spokesperson. In other words: take (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) also, but it's such a beautiful place too. Its one of my favorite states along interstate 80. Anyway, I haven't promised anyone anything -- but if the Libertarian party takes over I might just move there. It won't be worse than Shrub et al (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (URL) Dave! (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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All hail Governor Bush for coming clean with (URL) this bit> of useful info despite what Cheney was still parroting just days before. And to hear Dubya tell it, he can't understand why a majority of the American people continue to believe that (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I like your thinking on this, Lar. I'm with you 100%. Of course, the "powers that be" might have a different view of these ideas. It makes one want to inquire as to their motives, of course. (...) What people? The future consumers of Iraq, you (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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From: (URL) Bush administration strongly opposes using loans for the Iraqi reconstruction request." Why shouldn't Iraq pay for this, exactly? Take me through this logic again? "It argues that Iraq's $200 billion debt is already more than it can (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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