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Welcome to 20 minutes into the future, people. Copyrights are dead. Patents are dead. IP is dead. Digital means infinitely reproducible. And as William Gibson has observed: "the street has its own uses for things." It's not a matter of what is right (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And we're right back to the beginning. I went to university, I minored in poli-sci and, occasionally, I went to class...(1) I had to read your constitution. I studied your laws. I looked at the democratic process. Not once did it say in *any* (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Isn't the whole point of making a copy so you can still use the material even if the original is damaged. Unless the record company can prove you did not purchase the CD in the first place they should not have a case against you. (...) I think (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The opinions of a handful of politicians are irrelavent (as if they would be honest about it anyway.) You (and your politicians) can believe whatever hippy notions you want about the power of the people, but the real power of the people comes (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oops, substitute "the local NAACP leader" in the places I put McCelland's name. -->Bruz<-- (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't see how it is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Inasmuch as the minority groups formed due to ostracism, and the "white" group is not forming for the same reason, I can see where McCelland's concern is coming from. It seems (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) more like a global free-for-all (...) Sadly, it's not an equation to begin with, it's favoritism for the monetary/political elite. I agree completely that fair (livable) wages are a must. After I had stopped my drefting job due to burnout 2 (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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The price of dignity (URL) In the past two years, 500 export assembly factories have shut down in Mexico, throwing 218,000 workers on to the street. Their crime was the $1.26-an-hour base wage they were paid by companies such as Alcoa Fujikura to (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) However the party system stuffs all that up by forcing members to vote "along party lines" instead of how their constituents want them to vote (except in conscience votes, which don't happen often in parliament). Note that I'm referring to (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What exactly are you looking for here? Anecdotal evidence that a gun and self-reliance are political necessaries? If you don't believe that then nothing I say will change your mind. I guess I could tell you a story, but then you'd just tell me (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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For purposes of this discussion, let's posit that music companies *have* the right to control distribution and to make copies of their products, and also that the consumer is granted the "fair use" right to make personal copies of purchased music. (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Agreed. (...) "A local NAACP leader said Lisa McClelland's proposed club smacks of racial division". Accusing someone of creating "racial division" is akin to calling them "racists" IMO. The entire quotation is, in the final analysis, the pot (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You know, it's people like you wot cause unrest....;-) (...) Hmmm. Racism and sexism are different beasts. I am not in favor of equating the sexes-- they are not equal. Why O why do some women insist on trying to be like men? Men suck-- they (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This illustrates why I think essentially social clubs shouldn't be sanctioned by high schools - the reason the minority clubs formed is because whites wouldn't let them into any of the already established clubs. Perhaps the whole idea is (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Completely agree! As an aside, I put girls phys-ed in my course selection for a sememster when I was in high school. That got me called down to the principals office. He said I couldn't do it and I said that his decision was sexist and (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, I say let the girl have her school group. But I can understand the NAACP's discomfort at the thought of a return to (or perpetuation of) institutionalized White Clubs. The reason it's a sensitive issue is that, in the US, the the (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Learn all about (URL) bias in the news media.> And, while we're at it, you might as well check out (URL) this,> too. Dave! (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Pentagon Remember all those so-called "support the troops" rallies that took place before the invasion of Iraq?...I often wonder where those people are now - I mean, you don't see a lot of them around. Waving flags, parading in the streets, (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) And the local NAACP has the nerve to call the group "racist". When are such organizations going to come to the realization that their very existence perpetuates the type of behavior they abhor. JOHN (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) two men - Joe Varnell and Kevin Bourassa who are legally married under Ontario law - refused to fill out separate forms and cancelled their trip, to a human rights conference in Georgia. The US Embassy in Ottawa defended the action by US (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) True, but it didn't start that way. And if the farmers in 1775 had quietly rolled over and turned in their guns, the army of 1776 would not have been able to be raised. Here's a pretty good short account of the day: (URL) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You know, I just don't think many people really think about the implications of 1775 (which is actually far more relevant to this debate than 1776, by 1776 the whole thing was well under way). How many people have thought about the (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wasn't it a massive insurrection against a tyranny? Didn't the newly started country raise a rather large army to ward off the Brits? Wasn't it, then, really, an army against an army? Whether you Yanks partook in gurrilla warfare in the woods (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This depends heavily on where you go to. If you go above the Arctic Circle, the sun never sets during mid-summer. In Oslo, which is around the 60° Nothern latitude, the sun sets for around three hours in summer, but with the sun just beneath (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey Dave! I'm posting here because I know you will read this... are you comming tonight, and if so can you bring your laptop? Jeff VW Did I just go Off Topic in .off-topic? (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) I've wanted to visit a few places in the world since I was a kid--Austailia, Denmark, others... Now Norway's on the list. Sun barely sets at all in the summer? Think of the tan! :) Dave K (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And if there was a revolt today against Dubya, why do you think it would not be a war time scenario, or that the opposition wouldn't form into an army? Or that the armed opposition wouldn't have come from home? And the point was that you kept (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And your gun in your house helped how? You bring up non-sequiters. Police corruption isn't fixed by having a gun in your house, it's fixed by 'the people' getting active--voting, educating, and fixing the system. And none of that requires a (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I found this article to be somewhat inaccurate. For example, it states that more than 40% of academic posts are held by women. This is far from the truth. In the Universities, the vast majority of the higher academic positions are still held (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Uh, that is seriously a load of crap. The U.S. is practically a warzone depending on where you live and the color of your skin. I have mentiond here before that I know of several instances of police abuse amongst people I know -- immediate (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And we're back to appealing to what's going on in *other* countries and in other times. In *America*, *today*, your gun in your house does *nothing* to preserve your freedom. Your gun in your house takes away the freedom of your fellow (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure you've shown that, actually. Note please that I am not asserting that (for example) the US is not a socialist state, for it is... I'm merely talking about the general case. (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The point is that we don't live the same way today as we did in '76. And we don't live in the civil war era. And, again, both condtions were war-time scenarios, and, again, both times there were armies involved. THe civil war was the army of (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote: <snip> (...) I've been addressing it from the beginning--An armed citizenry is not needed I've talked with my local MPP, I've spoken with other politicians at various levels of political power (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This is a false argument; there is no country which is "free in all senses of the word". Just like there is no country which is completely socialist or completely free market. (...) I agree; the centre-left approach to life in Norway, Sweden (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Kennedy's 'Texas' remark stirs GOP reaction (URL) He said Bush officials had failed to account for $1.5 billion of the $4 billion the war costs each month, citing a recent report by the Congressional Budget Office. "My belief is this money is being (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In what way are people in more socialist countries less free than ourselves, Lar? We are progressively taxed, we have social programs, etc. I'm not seeing the big difference. We pay the same but get far less for our $$$. I hate to say it, but (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But a world with complete (personal) freedom can't exist because the more freedom you get the nearer anarchy you get and then you lose the freedom because another persons 'freedom' impinges on yours. To my mind a county like Denmark (which has (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure they are. Show me a socialist country where you are free, in all senses of the word. (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why is this thread called Liberty vs Socialism? Liberty and socialism aren't opposites anyway Tim (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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