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Re: Liberty vs. Socialism
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Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:39:52 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim David wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim David wrote:

   Why is this thread called Liberty vs Socialism?

Liberty and socialism aren’t opposites anyway

Sure they are. Show me a socialist country where you are free, in all senses of the word.

This is a false argument; there is no country which is “free in all senses of the word”. Just like there is no country which is completely socialist or completely free market.

  
But a world with complete (personal) freedom can’t exist because the more freedom you get the nearer anarchy you get and then you lose the freedom because another persons ‘freedom’ impinges on yours. To my mind a county like Denmark (which has a pretty socialist attitude) gets as near to a good balance as anywhere. I’m not saying that it is perfect by anymeans but to my mind infinately preferable to the US. (plus its the home of Lego!)

  
I know that this doesn’t really answer your question but my point is that the two arent mutually exclusive

I agree; the centre-left approach to life in Norway, Sweden and Denmark is laudable. Norway manages to a have 1st class welfare system, the highest standard of living in the world and punches well above its weight on the international stage.

See here:

Because Norway’s oil wealth is managed by the government with an eye to benefiting future generations as well as today’s, the $7,000 per capita income from the industry doesn’t go directly into each Norwegian’s pocket but into a fund. Still, the huge budget surpluses provided by the oil money allow the state to fully finance what in most countries are personal expenses, such as saving for retirement or a child’s college education.

Scott A

  
Tim



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