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(...) I'm confused. I thought David Koudys more likely to sing "God Save Our Gracious Queen" than "My Country Tis of Thee" but I could be wrong. Or is it that he just went to college in CA but is a US citizen after all? I admit it. I can't keep all (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: <snip> (...) even better quotes from Mr Bush: Speaking Thursday at the G-8 summit in Canada, Bush said the ruling was "out of step with the history and traditions of America," and said it highlighted (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: <snip> (...) you're arguing about the semantics here. Would it be ok with there were state run mosques? a mosque isn't a church, right? I strongly believe that the state should stay away from all (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You only perceive it as a slippery slope because you're heavily invested in your particular deity. That's your right, obviously, but that doesn't mean The State can endorse a deity. To an athiest, an agnostic, a humanist, or even to someone (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Well, I won't go around telling you what to do -- but I disagreed strongly with most of that on a personal level. The separation of church and state should mean that everyone's religious beliefs are respected and that there is no official state (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: I (...) Like it or not, our nation was founded by men who believed that the US was a country of higher purpose-- as it has turned out to be. To extricate the core values of those who created the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: snip (...) Love people who try to get their points across by jumping right to the end of the slippery slope. I don't believe in the 'popular view', as in 'its *just* a tradition so who cares?' And (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Here are a few other gems from (URL) Sen. Kit Bond, R-Missouri, was one of many lawmakers who immediately reacted in anger and shock to the ruling. "Our Founding Fathers must be spinning in their graves. This is the worst kind of political (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As of the last census, I was born and still live in the US of A, and I vote, work, and pay taxes here, so my discussions of "my" country tend generally to involve the US. In addition, your sesquipedalian label isn't entirely accurate, since I (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was always very confused by this when I was at school in the US. My US Government class made a big deal of the 'separation of church and state', yet we (well not me obviously, though I did stand for it) were expected to recite the pledge (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes: <snip all but the most salient point> (...) Nope. If anything, you're one of the most level-headed posters around. James (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok, I had kinda given up on this thread after a week or so, but I have to say, I'm rather suprised at the response I *did* finally get! I'm not sure what you mean by "all the crap [I] say about other people", other than my quasi-recent (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Here's an article that blames crime on diet (URL) sort of... ROSCO (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) * checks head for trepanning *... hey my keys! Joseph (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm delighted too for now, but isn't this a decision of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, one of the more liberal bodies? I assume it will be sent up to the U.S. Supreme Court for their decision-- and I bet we won't be so delighted then. BTW (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Like Matt, I hadn't heard of the show until the toys were announced. I tried watching the show a couple of times but it really didn't grab me. (...) Your arguement would be more constructive if it wasn't so sweeping in it's generalization. (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Na... at least not until you actually make some "hilarious" threats. (insert rimshot here). :-) You've got "vague" covered though. Jeremy, in one sense everything said here can be viewed as somewhat likely to offend the sensibilities of some (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, how does this mean I don't like Dave. A lot of times Dave is a very positive and great guy. I can't say I love him, but without him, Lugnet wouldn't be the same. This type of message is sick though, whomever posts it. Hey, I've spoken my (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It seems to have annoyed Senator Robert Byrd of W. Va... (I saw him on a clip that CNN showed storming around the senate almost at a loss for words in annoyance at "that stupid judge" missing the point of course that it was a panel of 3 judges (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There is a reason that this is called "off-topic.debate". We're not *supposed* to talk about LEGO here. That's what the rest of LUGNET is for. Personally, whenever the Pledge of Allegiance is said, I participate but omit the words "Under God". (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They can leave that motto, for all I care, as long as they add: "All other pay cash!" ;-) Bruce (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They can leave that motto, for all I care, as long as they add: "All others pay cash!" ;-) Bruce (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Simply moronic. The government *claims* all sorts of things. Sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong, and sometimes there are some evil people with a hidden agenda. It has nothing to do with "conservative" or "liberal". It has to do (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Eh? I think Schuler is a U.S. guy -- this means he is a citizen of the country with this particular controversy. And while we do talk Lego here, this is off-topic.debate, which gives Schuler some latitude. And that last part -- well, you (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Now pardon me, but I live in Kentucky USA, and find that the issue of the Pledge of Allegiance being Religeos is a big issue that is important. I agree with the courts decision. The use of that pledge, as it is written today was used in my (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I cannot believe that this discussion board, Lugnet, has become an place for antidisestablishmenttarians to comment on what is going on in other people's countries, and describe their mental high on an issue that is controversial. We talk about Lego (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Next step is likely to be the motto on the dollar bills "In God we trust"... ;-) Pedro (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) For the life of me I can't imagine why this never happened before, but I'm delighted by it. Dave! (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree! Either we have a case and should try him, or we don't have a case and should release him (after implanting a GPS tracking device, of course...) (...) Well, sure! I'd just like them to be consistent in their particular flavor of (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, I can't see why Padilla can't be given his rights, due process, equal protection, trial by jury for treason, right to appeal, and then hung upside down by the short-hairs until he is dead either... I mean, the guy is an american however (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And correlation doesn't equal causation, except when convenient for one's agenda! 8^) (...) A tangential but related point: On Saturday I chanced to hear some of the Mike Reagan radio show on which Mike (with typical, laser precision) (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As someone who has been a HUGE fan of the Fox Network since its inception, I have to heartily disagree with your declaration that Fox has "never really" had "anything worth watching". While your statement could be read as a blanket dismissal (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Excluding Texas would probably work to his advantage: I believe Texas has the highest murder rate along with the highest execution rate. Either capital punishment has little effect, or Texas would soon be laid waste without it (one must test (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I expect there are a great deal of studies which prove it works, and just as many which prove it does not. Personally, I think that is irrelevant. I oppose it as: a) I think it is immoral. b) Justice is always subject to human error. c) I (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Me too. I always understood that most murders were committed by husbands boyfriends, fathers, step-dads etc? On the broader subject of the death penalty, I think it is good that the US has finally decided to stop executing criminals "learning (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd want to see some stats on that. I think you can construct an argument the other way too, that once you've crossed the line and are now a good candidate for that penalty, nothing is going to stop you from committing further crimes. (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: Can anyone verify this (...) Can't help you there, but here's an interesting argument regarding capital punishment- Most murders occur in conjection with other crimes (theft, rape, etc). If a criminal (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Here in sunny Western PA we have a disturbing abundance of far-right demagogues on the radio, all of whom place the blame for all the ills of society--from the possibility of a dirty bomb to the heartbreak of psoriasis-- squarely upon Liberals. I (...) (22 years ago, 25-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I read a couple of quotes the other day that I thought made a great postscript to this post: In early '48 it was questioned why Israel had no land in the Jerusalem area, this was Ben-Gurion's answer: "The war will give us the land. The concept (...) (22 years ago, 25-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) translation: "i am a doughnut!" ich bin ein frankfurter! (i am a hotdog!) -lenny (22 years ago, 24-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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