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Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Thu, 27 Jun 2002 15:45:47 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
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> simply don't understand how the US Congress can legislate the phrase "Under
> God" without it being a literal State-establishment of religion.
Like it or not, our nation was founded by men who believed that the US was a
country of higher purpose-- as it has turned out to be. To extricate the core
values of those who created the Constitution is to unravel the very fabric of
our being.
This country was *not* founded by a group of Atheists; I would submit that the
founding of such a country wouldn't even be *possible* from such a group
(Russia is a good example). Fact is, every country will create a "religion"
whether it is based on a belief in a god or not.
I think the Founding Fathers believed, as do I, that the US would be more than
just another nation among nations. We believe that we are special, that we
have a higher calling and purpose, and indeed it is *because* of that belief
that we have in fact become that. We are the most powerful nation to have ever
existed, and yet the idea of conquering the world never occurs to us. Why?
Because we believe are above and beyond that kind of thinking.
And this country did not become great because of "natural resources" or any
external reasons. It became great because of its citizen's *attitudes*, their
*optimism* for a better life. This kind of optimism can only be found in one
who believes that they are a part of some higher purpose.
At the core of our greatness lies the belief in one God. Now, the P of A
merely says "under God"-- it does *not* say whose brand of God; it does not
endorse any *particular* religion or denomination, which is the true purpose
for the separation of Church and State. There is no mention of separation of
"religion" and state.
The fact that Atheists don't believe in a God is irrelevant. Nobody is forcing
them to-- that right is guaranteed by the Constitution.
This country is the way it is because it is the way it is-- change it at its
core and you get a different country.
The fact is that most of the great men and women who served this country were
people of faith-- there is simply no denying that and it can't be changed, no
matter how offensive that may be to Atheists.
We are not a religious state, but we were certainly made great by religious
people. Denying *that* is offensive.
-John
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| (...) As of the last census, I was born and still live in the US of A, and I vote, work, and pay taxes here, so my discussions of "my" country tend generally to involve the US. In addition, your sesquipedalian label isn't entirely accurate, since I (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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