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Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Thu, 27 Jun 2002 16:53:38 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:

<snip>

> Yes there is a
> separation of *Church* and State, as there should be.  The state is suppose
> to support *all* people, not just the ones who happen to go to a specific
> church.  That does not mean that we have to separate God from the
> people--don't go separating God from the country.

you're arguing about the semantics here.  Would it be ok with there were
state run mosques?  a mosque isn't a church, right?  I strongly believe that
the state should stay away from all religion.  Just like it shouldn't force
you to renounce god, it shouldn't force you to pay homage to one.

> Everyone can believe what they, as individuals, want to believe.  So you
> don't believe in a creator--seriously, that's your own opinion--stop forcing
> that opinion on me.

I haven't tried to force it on you.  Why do you think the state should force
*your* opinion on *me*?

> The society, in general, as the fonding of the
> *nation*, the people, however you want to say it, started out as a God
> loving country.  So stop trying to rewrite history, stop trying to say that
> we have to go to the lowest common denominator that states 'oh we don't want
> to offend *anybody* 'cause you're offending *me* when you do that.  You
> can't make all the individuals in society happy--it's impossible.  So just
> stop it.  Do what's *right*, what's Just, what's good for *the people*.  The
> People believe in some god.  So shaddap when you say they don't.

I don't think anyone says the majority of americans don't believe in god.
Just that the US claims it has seperation of state and church (read:
religion).  Either stop claiming that, or live up to the claim!

Dan



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  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: snip (...) Love people who try to get their points across by jumping right to the end of the slippery slope. I don't believe in the 'popular view', as in 'its *just* a tradition so who cares?' And (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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