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Re: Capital Ideas
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Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:41:21 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:

Personally, I don't trust the government enough to
get executing people right regardless of statistics either way.

A tangential but related point:  On Saturday I chanced to hear some of the
Mike Reagan radio show on which Mike (with typical, laser precision)
condemned "Liberals" as anti-American bordering on traitors, in response to
a phone call with a Liberal journalist who expressed concerns that Jose
Padilla is being held without bail or an attorney or even formal charges.
Reagan said that, at some point, we "just have to trust that the government
will do the right thing," to which the journalist said that, if we're just
going to trust the gov't, we might was well get rid of all due process,
since it would be superfluous.

Simply moronic.  The government *claims* all sorts of things.  Sometimes
they are right, sometimes they are wrong, and sometimes there are some evil
people with a hidden agenda.  It has nothing to do with "conservative" or
"liberal".  It has to do with power, corruption, or even just losing sight
of why certain laws are passed.  I'm sure Mikey wasn't saying that we should
trust government when Clinton was in office.

Oh, and Mike Reagan got axed in L.A. a while ago last I heard.  :-)

What kills me about this is that so-called Liberals are *constantly*
condemned by the Conservative drumbeat of "Liberal big government," but a
staunch Conservative wants to trust the government's intentions, and the
Conservative condemns Liberals who suggest that such governmental hugeness
should be restrained.

I suppose if this had occurred during the Clinton administration, and if
Clinton had similarly detained Padilla without due process, Conservative
radio hosts would be just as supportive as they are of the Bush
administration...

A certain irony lost on mental titans of Mikey's ilk.  All we heard during
Clinton's administration was how untrustworthy government was (and Bush's
brother even proved).  Now we should trust it?  Clinton and Bush are career
politicians: I might support some of the things they may be trying to
achieve, but I can't say I really trust either of them.

Bruce



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(...) And correlation doesn't equal causation, except when convenient for one's agenda! 8^) (...) A tangential but related point: On Saturday I chanced to hear some of the Mike Reagan radio show on which Mike (with typical, laser precision) (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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