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(...) Can we stop speculating about the bandwidth used. Kevin is really the only one who can answer that, and until we know they are a bandwidth problem, it's somewhat pointless to speculate about that. (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Absolutely agreed. I think we've got to be careful about how we talk about the bandwidth issue until we have hard data. (...) I definitely agree with the above. (...) Umm, isn't a 9 year old breaking Brickshelf's TOS no matter what he/she (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head -- Mark's Lego Creations (URL) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *whoosh!* That's the sound of sarcasm going over your head. Jeff (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:GpJJ4K.5Du@lugnet.com... (...) Tim, your efforts in attempting to reply to _every_ single statement that "tom" makes have earned you the title of Tireless Rebutter: (URL) go to bed. Or to (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Jon Palmer" <jpalmer@oklahoma.net> wrote in message news:GpI9wI.B8F@lugnet.com... (...) Find tolerance. Sorry for being so blunt, by the way. -- Cheers, Paul LUGNET member 164 (URL) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Mark Sandlin" <sandlin@nwlink.com> wrote in message news:GpIBx2.FDz@lugnet.com... (...) easy! (...) Yeah, thanks for sharing, Evil Clown. (URL) member 164 (URL) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Jon Palmer" <jpalmer@oklahoma.net> wrote in message news:GpJ9nA.M6F@lugnet.com... (...) far (...) post (...) Tolerate the avatars, please! They are so easy to ignore. Don't blow _them_ out of proportion. I find yet-another-mecha about as exciting (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Remember, these aren't seen only by people looking at the Brickshelf recent page. They are loaded everytime the owner posts a message to a webforum, which means every time a person reads one of those messages, the images gets loaded (barring (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just looking at the size of these, they seem negligible even compared to the stuff in my own folders. So I don't think bandwidth is a huge factor. The main beef I would have is that they put each one in a separate folder (which you talk about (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: -snip- for brevity (...) A fair summary. Wisely left out the emotional baggage that got picked up on the way. (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (gen*I*talia but who's counting) OK, thanks for that info. I've seen nekkid girls before so I guess I didn't miss much there. But was it anyone we KNOW??? Um, can I suggest that someone summarize the larger discussion and see if it can be put (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snippage of old convos> (...) First of all, bandwidth is not your concern. No matter how you spin it, bandwith is not your concern. And that is not how this starterd, it started. This started because Jon thought they were ugly and was tired of (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It was an image of a totally naked woman with LEGO bricks covering up the genetalia. -Tim (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think the admins have dealt with it already because I get a blank page. Can someone (while remaining within the bounds of gentle speech and the LUGNET TOS, please) say what it was? Who or what was it insulting/mocking, etc? Thanks (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ouch! I had not heard that particular turn of phrase before and the vision it brings me is *not* a pain free one in any way shape or form. That is the only reason I set XFUT to .fun... to share that vision with y'all. If you feel like (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I missed the image. Was it a la 'American Beauty' ? Then you are right, that is more interesting. - Kyle (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it is abuse because it seems like they're always some new ones, usually in the same folders or by the same people, they are of no interest to *anyone* I know browsing the recent page, and they are not showcasing models or ideas or Lego (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <Ahem> Good point (and for the record-- no:-) -John (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What if it was Kevin who deleted them? You calling him a twit? ;D Jeff (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed. And now the twit has removed them. I did, however, download the images and will be forwarding them to Kevin for his consideration. -John (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Rob Drechsel" <robo2705@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GpJury.DpI@lugnet.com... (...) Jason at (...) don't (...) Though inappropriate, its 'Lego-related content.' I'd be expecting Tom Inosanto to be defending it anytime now. For the record, I (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is uncalled for, and it's certainly not needed on brickshelf. I don't want to hear it justified because "it has bricks!" Rob robo2705@hotmail.com (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Well, I think this sums it up: (URL) take long. And some moron will eventually come along and burn Jason at Brickfilms as well (to tie in another debate). <sigh> -John (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I still don't see how they are abuse (now if a single individual had uploaded say 1000 [or even 10] avatars each in their own folder so that they dominated the recent updates pages, that might be abuse). To be honest, I find the pages (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course many of the repeat viewings will be satisfied from cache and will take very little Brickshelf bandwidth (some is still used to check to see if the file has changed). I'm afraid we will have to let Kevin publish some stats on (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I find that your statements to the effect that Jon is immature for suggesting it means you feel he is NOT within his rights. (...) You're not getting the point. We want a change in TOS. We realize they do belong, we want that to change. (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Inosanto writes: <snip> (...) Obviously, you don't. Have your own server host these erroneous bits of drivel if you do. (...) I don't think Jeff has to be told what he was saying, he's very competent. (...) This, (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip old convo> (...) Never said you could not ask for this ban. Please point me to where I did say that. (...) And I understand that. (...) lol, maybe not in that line but its what you are saying. (...) I agree with you 100% (...) Yes it does, go (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"tom" <tinosanto@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GpJL5L.BLE@lugnet.com... (...) it, (...) And (...) Are you saying a majority opinion disliking the images would be irrelevant because they are LEGO related? Hypothetically, what if Kevin were to (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Calling us immature and telling us to "grow up" doesn't insinuate that you believe we have no right? Fine by me, believe what you will, but don't lie about it. (...) Too bad, you keep saying the same thing over and over. Obviously we don't see (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right. So if they're hosted on Brickshelf and thus appear as an ID on posts do they ALSO need to appear in "recent images" (...) Not following you here. Checking that box would not prevent the image from being served up, just from being shown (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. I do dislike them. I dislike a number of other things, too, but I'm not calling for bans on them. Why? I don't think they are abuses. The basis for every complaint has been becausse of disliking something. Anyway, who are you to determine (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snipped alot of old convo> (...) Maybe to you, but does that mean it is valid in my eyes? Not saying it does not, but does it mean it applies across the board? No. (...) Yes he does, as do you. I never said you do not have that right. Can you show (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Do you really need my answer to that? (...) Like or dislike, adding alot of value vs. adding little value does not factor into it, they are lego-related images. Like it or not, they are. And Brickshelf is such a place to host Lego related (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tim certainly can determine what he thinks is a quality MOC. He could have dropped the word "quality" and it would have been valid. (...) You're right, Tim doesn't have the right to determine what is allowed on Brickshelf. He DOES, however, (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 3kb files on a high traffic board such as that, probably get 100's of hits (each) EASILY. Whereas the 100k files are probably seen 5 times in the same timespan. Not to mention those 100k files eventually don't get seen ever again once everyone (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And you have stats on what is being accessed how often? What takes more bandwith... a 3kb file being accesed 25 times on a 100+kb file being accessed two times? tom (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Unfornently, NO, it's NOT! I don't know about you, but I prefer to hit that button once maybe twice to catch up on what I've missed. Now though, I find myself hitting the button 5 or 6 times. Granted that isn't a lot, but it all becomes very (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Boy Jon, you will attack me any way you can huh? first you call for me to be banned, then you think I am MM?? Give it a rest man, you came up with a very bad idea, let it go! And the `,D smileicon is widley used, maybe not here on Lugnet, but is (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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