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Re: Bionicle Avatar pictures flooding BrickShelf
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Date: 
Mon, 7 Jan 2002 00:59:35 GMT
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<snipped alot of old convo>
Tim certainly can determine what he thinks is a quality MOC.  He could have
dropped the word "quality" and it would have been valid.

Maybe to you, but does that mean it is valid in my eyes? Not saying it does
not, but does it mean it applies across the board? No.

and what had a right to be on brickshelf..

You're right, Tim doesn't have the right to determine what is allowed on
Brickshelf.  He DOES, however, have the right to ask Kevin to change his
policy.

Yes he does, as do you. I never said you do not have that right. Can you
show me where I did say that? Please...

And there is not an overwhelming amount of these images, thats just you
stretching the facts to gan points for you.

It is overwhelming to Jon, Tim, me, and a number of other people.  The fact
that you don't share our feelings does not negate our opinion.  Or is your
opionion the only one that matters?

Not that is is overwhelming, but it does belong.

And "gain points"?  What is this, a game to you?  It certainly isn't a game >for me.

And neither for me, sorry for the figure of speech.


<snip more>

Are you even reading what we write?  I sure don't see it in your replies.

Yes. Too bad you do not see it.

Again, I have to ask, are you actually reading our posts?  One can have valid
reasons for disliking something, you know.  If not, how can any complaint >about anything be valid?

Yes. One can have valid reasons for not liking something, but that does not
translate into calling for it to be banned.

There's a valid reason to call for the banishment of Bionicle avatars.
There's a flood of them.

Thats not a valid reason. Sorry, it just is not.

And it seems that per one person there are many
more than needed (I believe you only need one avatar for a perosnal icon).

Yes, one at a time, but that does not mean they can only use one.

Jon (and now Jeff) are merely expressing opinions.  If people agree, great!
If not, that's fine too!  Great thing about opinions is you don't have to
share them.

Yes, that is a good thing about them.

There is no flood! There is more of a flood of the cad images than these
images, but you like cad images - so thats ok right? BOTH are lego related,
and BOTH have a place on Brickshelf, like it or not.

Hey, I think I hear a broken record around here somewhere...

You hear a broken record because it is true!! And you keep avoiding the
simple fact that these are lego-related images and they do belong!! Are you
readiung what *I* am posting?

Ah, so you've never voiced a complaint on anything?  Asked for something to be
removed from anywhere?  The root of both actions are disliking something.  The
Civil Rights movement was due to a group of people disliking their treatment >by
another group, and they called for a ban on such treatment.  They must've been
wrong, hmm?  Now, you may claim this is a bad example again.  I'll use an
example from Lugnet.  Were we all wrong to complain about Matthew Moulton, who
was being disruptive in the newsgroups?  I mean, we could've just ignored his
messages, I suppose...

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are actually comparing images of bionicle to the
civil rights movemnet?!?!? LOL!!! YES! Of course I am going to say this is a
bad example, The civil rights movemnet had to do with people being killed,
people being treated less than human!! How does that compare to you having
to hit 'Next'??? I can not honestly believe you went there, this is such a
bad example it is beyond words. Really, how does it compare???

And yes, I have asked for items to be removed, but when it was inapproite
for the forum. If people were posting nude images, or images from the faces
of death videos, then I would be the first to stand up and say get rid of
them, because children veiw this. Not because I do not like something.

And MM was different also, more along the lines than the Civil Rights
Movment reference was, but still - different from bionicle images. MM was
acting innapropriate for this forum. And my thoughts on him will be posted
in a different thread if you ask.

I said this elsewhere, but will re-post it.
If you are truly concerned about the mis-use of brickshelf, then go after
non-lego images. If you do go after non-lego items then I will fight with
you utill the end (you may not want me there, but still). But as long as yu
try to ban lego images I will be very vocal on how you are wrong (unless
Kevin agrees with you, but untill then I speak).

tom
Jeff



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  Re: Bionicle Avatar pictures flooding BrickShelf
 
(...) Calling us immature and telling us to "grow up" doesn't insinuate that you believe we have no right? Fine by me, believe what you will, but don't lie about it. (...) Too bad, you keep saying the same thing over and over. Obviously we don't see (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Bionicle Avatar pictures flooding BrickShelf
 
(...) I find that your statements to the effect that Jon is immature for suggesting it means you feel he is NOT within his rights. (...) You're not getting the point. We want a change in TOS. We realize they do belong, we want that to change. (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Bionicle Avatar pictures flooding BrickShelf
 
(...) Tim certainly can determine what he thinks is a quality MOC. He could have dropped the word "quality" and it would have been valid. (...) You're right, Tim doesn't have the right to determine what is allowed on Brickshelf. He DOES, however, (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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