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(...) South Coast Liesure Club? Sunny California Libertarian Clique? Advanced Ideas Mechanics? Accuracy in Media? Asian Internet Marketing? I don't speak initial. Well, solved the second with my Apache buddy literally walking by as I was typing (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It may be that that is the adult lego market? (...) Indeed. I think that starting point for looking at the background of the users of Lugnet is to look at the users on the internet and of Lego. Looking at Lugnet alone is useless in my opinion. (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If these guys are Libertarians, then Tony Blair ought to be running for the chair of the Tories. Putting a word in your name doesn't make you that word. (...) If these guys are Greens, then Robert Byrd ought to be stumping for the presidential (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Like I say Larry, you are full of opinion which you just cannot justify. All I am asking for, on this one, is a simple reference – but you are simply unable to mange it. (...) ...another insult - how adult. (...) I think it is a fair question (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How do you determine the fair price? That's a serious question, you speak of fair trade (which tends to be a code word here in the US for unfree trade), but how do you know what is fair? Who (or what mechanism) determines it? (...) What are (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why does LUGNET (in general) attract well educated white males? From my observations, Larry is right. LUGNET does not represent the statistical make-up of the countries in which it resides. Is this due to education? Economical status? (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not going to play this game any more, sorry. I've justified my assertion that LUGNET members are more white and more male than the averages to my satisfaction, and surely to the satisfaction of any reasonable person. If it's not to *your* (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's start with an very very easy one: From: (URL) It was, at least for the 20+ fests, meetings, events, (...) Scott: This is all noise, BUT where did you get the averages from? =*= Next we will do a very easy one. Scott A (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You don't know the answer to his/her questions either? tut. tut. You are full of opinion, but you seldom wish to justify it. Perhaps you need to think a little deeper, rather that doing a simple cut 'n' paste with LP dogma? Answer my points (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dave voiced some concerns, which I addressed. Your contribution, on the other hand, consists of "why why why why why why". I had a 3 year old who did that, but he grew out of it. ++Lar (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I did not challenge you. This is all noise, BUT saying "I count noses in fest pictures" make it sound like you do it all the time. I'm glad you don't. (...) This is all noise, BUT where did you get the averages from? (...) It does for the LP (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) These ones: From (URL) Libertarian National Socialist Green Party is in part based upon the work of the Libertarian party from whom we gain appreciation for the individual spirit and independence from a morally-judgmental, active government. (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I *don't care* what the makeup of LUGNET or the hobby is. I never said I did. I just said it wasn't the same as the overall population. When you challenged me I went off and counted noses at that point in order to see if my hunch was right. It (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed. The notion that a bunch of white guys can sit around constructing a libertarian dreamland which will be on benefit to all is a complete anathema to me. Scott A (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have no idea what the SCLC is, so I have no real opinion on it. (...) One could argue that you are using your memebership fee to invest in a Libertarian future. Your fellow members may hope for a return on that investment in the longer or (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would like to be the judge of that. (...) Hmm. So you are keeping a count? What sort of a person would do that? It is not a thing I worry about. (...) Not much more. I have been to 1 fest. I think the makeup was ~10-20% scottish, and (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh ya! Dat's fer shur. Yawp. Izzit too late to be buildin' a shanty on dat dere lake dis year? (...) He really does! In terms of "north-up" *and* elevation, if memory serves. But it takes more than that to be a real troll; you need to eat (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think you are a racist but I do think you may be misinformed, it is no more accurate to say that a Gypsy is a swindler than it is to say that a Yooper is stupid. ++Lar (a troll... literally! I live below *the* bridge.) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's dig into that a bit... Is that an accurate supposition? That is, *are* there things that are "good for you" that you wouldn't necessarily choose to do? We know that's true in the individual case, right? I know that exercising more and (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't mind me, but isn't that what a Gypsy is? Josh P.S. Please don't think of me as a racist or something... (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The sad thing is that Economic sanctions barely harm those that make the nations decisions. Any person in goverment or in a powerful position will still get their fine food, medical facilities and luxury goods. Thats a fact about such corrupt (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What if you're overcharged for a low-quality load of gypsum? 8^) (...) And here I was afraid you were trying to sneak in some Nazi propaganda! 8^) Anyway, I wasn't able to type the umlaut so it came through the same! You crystallized it for (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dave, I *know* you're smarter than this. You know well the difference between the semantic load of "gypsum" (if there is one, outside of East Tawas, MI, where it indicates employment ;) ) and that of "gypping" (or "Gypsy"). (...) What's so (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, William R. Ward writes: <SNIP> Notice is given to all that a reply was sent in private. Paul Sinasohn LUGNET #115 (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's an entirely different subject. My point is to allow Iraq to function as country by lifting the sanctions that have destroyed the nations infrastructure and demoralized and destroyed the lives of so many innocent people. (...) There's an (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 100% pure bullsh*t my friend, but you will think as you wish. By rephrasing it, you changed the meaning for your selfish purposes, not for the greater need of understanding. If you were intent on understanding, you wouldn't throw in the little (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Etymological Oddities (was Re: New Brickbay promotion)
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(...) Maggie C. (who would be living testament to the notion that the memory is the first to go except that I've always been this way! Oh, wait, I hope I'm not offending anyone with my use of the word TESTAMENT!) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) American groups working for political or social change. What exactly they were advocating isn't important to my point. (...) No, I count noses in fest pictures. It may be an invalid inference from that to the makeup of lugnet as a whole but (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Since I share Bruce's misgivings on this subject, I'll mention a few thoughts, too. The validity or invalidity of the LP's views is, of course, wholly independent of the racial, cultural, age, or gender makeup of the party, but that's not what (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok, what is SCLC or AIM? (...) How do you know that we are more white - you only assume (as I do). That is not really the question (LUGNET does not attempt to represent the views of society). The question is : Why is the LP so "white"? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok, what is SCLC or AIM? (...) How do you know that we are more white - you only assume (as I do). Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why? Was the message of the SCLC less valid because SCLC members were mostly black? Was the message of AIM less valid because AIM was mostly native american? I resent the implication that groups need to be "ethnically balanced" to have valid (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, heck--you've met pretty much the entire Party. (URL) Dave! (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks for the pointer. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I imagine some will get similarly upset when I refer to gypsum. If people are willing to go to such preposterous etymological lengths to be offended, I'd like to point out that every time someone "testifies" in court or elswhere, that person (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So if a business, American or otherwise, trades with Iraq, selling food, tools, whatever, and they make lots of money -- is that bad or good? Are they economic imperialists? Are they exploiting the Iraqis? What about buying oil from Iraq? Does (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it was taken fairly seriously--not as a veiled slur but as a matter of public embarrassment resulting in an offer of resignation by the "offending" party: (URL) In any case, I'm offended by your invocation of Hitler in your use of the (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes and no. "Coloured" (sic: colored <g>) is a really poor term that isn't particularly used in America. It carries the implication that europeans are "normal" and others are not. In the sense Larry meant it, I agree. But in the sense that you (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Avoiding the question I think. Interestingly, I searched for "militia libertarian racist" on google and it came up with this site: (URL) you search that page for occurrences of "libertarian" you will see that I was not all wrong. Scott A (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks for that clarification. Rephrasing it, what I see you saying is that you're never wrong about anything, or at least never willing to admit it, and that you never misstate anything, or at least never see any need to ever correct anything (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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