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Re: Libertarian SPAM (Propaganda)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:28:58 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > > How do you know that we are more white - you only assume (as I do).
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> > No, I count noses in fest pictures.
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> Hmm. So you are keeping a count? What sort of a person would do that? It is
> not a thing I worry about.
I *don't care* what the makeup of LUGNET or the hobby is. I never said I
did. I just said it wasn't the same as the overall population. When you
challenged me I went off and counted noses at that point in order to see if
my hunch was right. It was, at least for the 20+ fests, meetings, events,
etc., I've attended in 6 countries on 3 continents... (a slightly better
sample set than yours) For the subset that I reviewed pictures, each one of
them was more male than 49% and more white than the population average for
the continent or the country or the state that it was held in. (whichever is
a good metric) The point is, though... so what? Ethnic makeup has no
relevance. That is the sum total of my point.
When you challenge my assertion about proportions and I briefly explain how
I got that sense, you turn it around. Why? To try to imply things that just
aren't true?
Wow. There's just no way to actually talk to you sensibly, is there? I'd say
you are bankrupt in the idea department if that's the best you can do.
> > > That is not really the question (LUGNET does not attempt to represent the
> > > views of society). The question is : Why is the LP so "white"?
<snipped reassertion of the same question>
> > The question is why does it matter? Demonstrate that the ethnic, racial,
> > religious etc.
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> We shall move on to the religious make-up later. :-)
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> > makeup of a group has actual bearing on the validity of ideas
> > the group espouses first, please.
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> I suppose it depends on what the LP is about. If it is a bunch of
> businessmen making a living out of your subscription fee then it does not
> really matter. If it is an organisation which seeks to fundamentally change
> the way the whole of society lives then I think its composition does matter.
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> Which is it?
It is the latter. Go ahead and demonstrate *why* it matters. Hint, merely
asserting it does won't do.
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| (...) I did not challenge you. This is all noise, BUT saying "I count noses in fest pictures" make it sound like you do it all the time. I'm glad you don't. (...) This is all noise, BUT where did you get the averages from? (...) It does for the LP (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I would like to be the judge of that. (...) Hmm. So you are keeping a count? What sort of a person would do that? It is not a thing I worry about. (...) Not much more. I have been to 1 fest. I think the makeup was ~10-20% scottish, and (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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