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Re: Libertarian SPAM (Propaganda)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:47:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> >
> > > But in the sense that you meant it, precious few. I have noted several
> > > times (and specifically within this string) that the overwhelming majority
> > > of Libertarians are white males - I have met several hundred people who have
> > > identified themselves as Libertarians and they have been 100% white males,
> > > though there are undoubtedly some that are not. When you consider the vast
> > > diversity of ethnicity in SoCal, that's a telling statement.
> >
> > Why?
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> > Was the message of the SCLC less valid because SCLC members were mostly black?
> > Was the message of AIM less valid because AIM was mostly native american?
> >
> > I resent the implication that groups need to be "ethnically balanced" to
> > have valid messages.
> >
> > The participants in this newsgroup are more white and more male than the
> > norm too. So what? THAT is why I answered Scott the way I did, to highlight
> > the inherent meaninglessness of the question.
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> Since I share Bruce's misgivings on this subject, I'll mention a few
> thoughts, too. The validity or invalidity of the LP's views is, of course,
> wholly independent of the racial, cultural, age, or gender makeup of the
> party, but that's not what Bruce appears (to me) to be disputing. My
> feeling, and the feeling of many others, is that the message of the group is
> apparently favorable to white males if white males are the principal
> proponents of the message. If, as the LP press packet indicates, the
> Libertarian agenda is truly the best plan for every man, woman, and child,
> then why is it that only white males latch onto it? If the problem is
> simply one of exposure (which I do not believe to be the case), then the LP
> needs to make its presence known so that the non-white-male populace can see
> the benefits of the party.
> I suspect that Bruce isn't simply dismissing the LP's platform as a white
> supremacist construct; he has noted its shortcomings and sees in those
> shortcomings something that the white male constituency identifies as
> expressly beneficial to them. The supposition is that, if it were the
> greatest good for all, then all would be eager to join.
Indeed. The notion that a bunch of white guys can sit around constructing a
libertarian dreamland which will be on benefit to all is a complete anathema
to me.
Scott A
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| (...) Since I share Bruce's misgivings on this subject, I'll mention a few thoughts, too. The validity or invalidity of the LP's views is, of course, wholly independent of the racial, cultural, age, or gender makeup of the party, but that's not what (...) (23 years ago, 14-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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