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    Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Mike Stanley
   (...) And in many cases this is an almost completely empty gesture meant to stop the obvious scalping (or the non-persistant scalping) and the whining of parents who didn't make it to the store on time to get the coolest new thing their kids must (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Jasper Janssen
     (...) You know, you don't have a gods-given right to purchase DVDs on the cheap. Just thought I'd mention that. Jasper (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Mike Stanley
     (...) Well, any rights I do have weren't given to me by any god, God, goddess, or pink elephant. Thought I'd mention that. (...) I'll address this more fully in response to Larry's post, which, while wrong, was a bit more thought-out than this one. (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Jasper Janssen
      (...) You know, he's saying exactly the same thing I thought, and then figured you'd be smart enough to infer from the smart-arse reply. Guess not. I'll explain more fully: You don't have _any_ right to a _promotion_ cheap DVD, other than what the (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Tony Priestman
      Folks, I don't think this belongs in loc.uk any more. On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Jasper Janssen (<383bacc7.242438643...gnet.com>) wrote at 11:50:50 (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Mike Stanley
      (...) Wow, thanks. (...) You're certainly right about that. (...) Well, I think that's debatable in general, and ridiculous with respect to me and my household. I haven't paid full price for any of the 50 or so DVDs I own. Heck, I haven't paid half (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Just nitpicking here but the amount the retailer nets as profit may be slightly more, or slightly less. It depends on a number of factors such as what the cost to take an order is, the cost to fulfill an order, how much less one box costs than (...) (25 years ago, 12-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —John DiRienzo
       Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) This reminds me of when KBKids.com had the X-wings for half price because of some pricing error. I ordered one, and nearly had a friend order another one because it was such a "good deal". But when it arrived, (...) (25 years ago, 12-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Jasper Janssen
       (...) Well, if you want to get rid of it.. Jasper (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Naji Norder
       (...) Mike, I certainly don't disagree with you. I have "bent" purchase resrictions myself. (Marcia and I both bought Voodoo3s with the mail-in rebate; I used my parent's address.) However, I think that the fact that the "end result is the same" is (...) (25 years ago, 12-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Mike Stanley
       (...) Actually, my wife and I do maintain separate DVD collections. She has the movies she likes, I have the movies I like. My collection is a great deal larger than hers, but then again, she's not into movies like me in the sense that she doesn't (...) (25 years ago, 13-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Jasper Janssen
      (...) Yeah well, you jibe at me, I jibe back. Can't help it. (...) Yes, they should. (...) It'd still be ok then. (...) The end result is the same, though. Therefore, in my opinion at least, it is wrong. (...) Exactly. (...) A bit less, actually. (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Tom Stangl
      <slrn82mo7i.75t.cjc@...s.utk.edu> <FL3EHw.BM9@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit However, Mike has noted before that his and his wife's choices in movies are quite different, so they might as well (...) (25 years ago, 12-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Mike Stanley
      (...) Yup. I like (and may soon buy) Horror movies - she can't watch them AT ALL. I also like other really violent mobster movies - she doesn't. About the only place we intersect fully movie-wise is Sci-Fi. She likes Musicals for Pete's sake. Ught. (...) (25 years ago, 13-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Naji Norder
     Then I see nothing wrong at all - or at least no more wrong than our voodoo3 purchase. My wife and I both maintain our own computers, and we both happened to need video cards at the same time. Naji (...) quite (...) my (...) the (...) the (...) (...) (25 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) I THINK he meant me, and I missed it the first time (1). Anyway... <bzzt> It's wrong. You're cheating the organization when you use different shipping addresses to make it look like you're not in the same household. Thanks for playing, though. (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        One item per... (was: Blue Hopper Car Mania) —Paul Sinasohn
     (...) However, in your dotage you are forgetting to use the spell check functionality of your e-mail software, if any. :-) Seriously, I have to disagree with you, Larry, on the "one per household" item referenced above. If I ship to my work address, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: One item per... (was: Blue Hopper Car Mania) —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) just nitpicking here, but c/forgetting/choosing not/, ok? I don't need a spell checker. I don't make misteaks. How many times to I have to tell you people that? I may have to make it my tagline (1). 1 - as if it wasn't already. (25 years ago, 12-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Troy Cefaratti
     (...) While I agree that cheating the company when you are actually a family is wrong, I also think that the method of limiting something to one per address is also wrong as well. If you are married, even if you have seperate paychecks and seperate (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Mike Stanley
      (...) Nah, I don't see it being any different. It's a stupid rule either way. The fact that my wife and I are married makes us no less separate consumers than Bob and his roommate Phil. A stupid rule, but one I choose to accept, mostly. (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Ben Roller
     (...) I pay $28 per year to keep a PO Box on campus at my college even though I no longer live on campus for this reason. We get all of the bills at home, but since both I and my roommate are AFOL with separate collections, the LEGO gets shipped to (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Mike Stanley
      (...) Lot's of places won't ship to PO Boxes, though, right? I wonder ... what would people who think using a work address as a shipping address would think if say I had a job that required me to travel most of the time, being in another city for (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Ben Roller
     (...) Well, sort of. Ours is technically not a Post Office as the USPS defines a Post Office (sort of like the whole space vs. Space thing). It's the same as a mail room at a large business and they can also accept UPS and Fed Ex. They sign for our (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Frank Filz
     (...) The mail box place I used when I first came down to North Carolina and was living in a hotel for a few days, set up the addresses as "suite 110". (...) Wow, that's a stupid way to limit things... I'm pretty sure that some of the vanity domains (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Mike Stanley
      (...) Yup. Most places that will host your domain will also forward mail to any address at that domain to your main account. I use a different e-mail address for each online store I order from and for various other things. That way I can more easily (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Jasper Janssen
     (...) My unlimited email addresses scheme: vi /etc/alias;newaliases Jasper (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Mike Stanley
   (...) Ok, I THINK you're responding to something else I wrote above that, maybe me saying Rachael and I could use our different work addresses as shipping addresses to get around a one per household deal. Certainly you're not saying that if I get in (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Larry Pieniazek
     The fact that a rule is stupid or even that it costs the company sales when it is adhered to is irrelevant. If the company promulgates a rule and makes it a part of the implied contract between you and they, you are bound to abide by it or be in (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Jasper Janssen
     (...) Intewrestingly, a vast majority of IP protected works do Not allow resale (without prior written consent from the publisher). From my copy of Asimov's Foundation: "This book is sold subject to the condition that it shall not, by way of trade (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Oooh, good catch. So that means all those used book stores are technically fencing goods obtained illegally (because the sellers weren't allowed to.) How did I miss that one? I used to shop at used book stores all the time back when I was (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Mike Stanley
      (...) So the used bookstore I bought my copy from (and the person who sold it to the store, I assume) were violating the terms of that "contract" ? Cute. Hardly enforcable, but cute. (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Mike Stanley
      (...) You mean you don't shop at used book stores now that you aren't poor? Wow, I can't imagine, no matter how much money I have, ever not shopping at used book stores. Not that I don't buy new books (mostly off the net now) all the time as well (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Oh, I'm still poor, just not as poor as I was before. I WOULD shop at used book stores if I had the time. But it takes more time per title acquired than buying new. I STILL shop at used CD stores. (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Mike Stanley
      (...) Ah, I understand. I picked up my copy of the IEAK 5 resource kit locally even though I knew I could get it for 25% less online, but I needed it sooner rather than later. Not the same maybe, but I've also bought things at a store knowing I (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Frank Filz
      (...) Wow! I've never seen something like that. I guess you need to keep the book in a lock box (you would be in trouble if a thief stole the book since you have allowed it to circulate without the publisher's prior consent). I wonder if this (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Doug Finney
      (...) Yep, sort of like all those "Promotional Use Only" CDs and LPs floating around in used bins the world over that "legally" remain the property of the record companies and can't be resold. Doug (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Will Middelaer
      (...) Of course, as far as a book that a publisher sells, this is entirely unenforcable to keep you from re-selling the book, at least in the United States thanks to the doctrine of "first sale". The relevant part of title 17 US CODE 109 (a) states: (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Crosspost Spamming (Was: Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...) —Richard Franks
      Disclaimer: These views are my own and not necessarily those of market.shopping or loc.uk, they are also not directed towards any individuals - the message I'm responding to is just the latest! It is just a *teansy* bit irratating that there have (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Charles Eric McCarthy
     (...) I may be in breeches, but don't pour any beer, small or otherwise, in them. :-) On a serious note, if the company only wants to mail one per address, then getting one sent to every address you know of *is* following the rules and is not a (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Mike Stanley
     Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote: (sorry for not removing .uk before now) (...) I agree. I just see the end result as being no different than if I had one shipped to work. But that's the funny thing about morals - we bend ourselves around (...) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) I have no idea. I'd happily split hairs with you on this but we've gone below the power of my scope to resolve, hairsizewise... :-) (25 years ago, 12-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —James Brown
      (...) You mean you can't come to a resolution, or are you simply not focused enough? James (URL) (25 years ago, 12-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.pun)
    
         Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Jasper Janssen
     (...) Wouldn't this depend on the type of roommate situation? I'd say, if the only thing they have in common is the address, than sure, separate households. If they have a private room in the house, but share living quarters, then they're not. (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —John Neal
      <slrn82mot5.75t.cjc@...s.utk.edu> <382B8EE5.742C8EB@voyager.net> <FL2IBt.4FA@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Yes;) -John (...) (25 years ago, 12-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.pun)
   
        Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —John DiRienzo
    I have to side with Larry (and Mike, too I guess). I am sure companies use these limits (one per person/per household) to maximize the effectiveness of their special deal. They are within their rights to make up such rules, and you are within your (...) (25 years ago, 12-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania... —Richard Franks
    (URL) agree with Tony, I don't think this belongs in loc.uk anymore folks. Richard (25 years ago, 13-Nov-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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