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(...) Agreed. And I would argue that the sets that LD has brought out so far under their aegis are hitting this mark quite well. LD gets it. LD knows what we want and LD is delivering. I've said it before and I'll no doubt (to the annoyance of those (...) (23 years ago, 13-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Just my two cents. I bought the green dragon. I found the set to be challenging, and a well designed set. Granted it is a little too cute for me, but still a nice design. On top of that, once you take it apart you have tons (tonnes) of green (...) (23 years ago, 13-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) OK. I'll defend the Camel as a good, even great, model, though. It isn't minifig scale but neither are other model team sets. It's a bit bigger scale than model team but it is along the same lines. I found it to be a very enjoyable build. (...) (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) I guess that's true but I thought we were talking about instances where the TLG model was good. If we're talking about as a set of parts, then yes. (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) That would be cool! I would be OK with it not saving high scores, etc when it was standalone, and requiring all scoring record attempts to be while connected (to prevent hacks). We were connected to the LEGO website for many hours yesterday, (...) (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I think that Lego have got themselves into a viscious circle. For some reason they realeased Juniorised sets, these sets didn't sell as well as they hoped. So to make up for losses they've diluted their product range and created these sets (...) (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) I was hoping for the same thing...no-go when I tried to download to Shockmachine... If Tomas doesn't catch it here, I'll mention it the next time I e-mail with him...I'm thinking a CD in the next Mania Magazine... Matt (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Roger that. I am *almost* ready to take back all the mean things I've ever said about Shockwave. (1) I wish you could play it standalone though. (...) I'm even digging the music, it's pretty catchy. 1 - But please note that this game doesn't (...) (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) No prob...I was all caffenated up anyway...it was either Junkbot or reading... Ah...Lode Runner...It also has a Lemmings aspect to it... (...) Heh, heh..."Run the Gauntlet" frustrated me for a while... The vast majority of them don't (...) Me (...) (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) The minifig isn't THAT useful but the other three you name are veritable treasure troves of parts. Sopwith Camel especially looks like someone who knows what sort of parts I like designed it to be a great parts source to fill in the gaps in my (...) (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Matthew Gerber writes: <release not saving> (...) Thanks for the word up on that. (...) That's bad! (well... good, I suppose) It means the game IS addictive. It sort of reminds me of Lode Runner a bit for those of you that (...) (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) No you're not... You're just one of our favorites. Nice mathwork there, by the way, thanks for sharing! (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Gee, I am no math wiz, but here goes: #3450 Statue of Liberty 2800 pcs. @ $199 USD = $0.07 USD an element #3451 Sopwith Camel 577 pcs. @ $49.99 USD = $0.09 USD an element #3724 Lego Dragon 1530 pcs. @ $99 USD = $0.06 USD an element #7127 (...) (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Larry, I got word from Tomas a little while ago. The build of the game that made it to the site IS NOT saving. The beta builds did...hence the Hall of Fame scores. They will be fixing it next week. I played the game straight through late last (...) (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Junkbot is a lot of fun! Nik and I spent several enjoyable hours. There are a number of good puzzles in it. It doesn't seem to be saving stats from one session to the next, though, is that WAD? (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Ah, but they can be used for SOOOO much more than that. Cool looking caps are just the beginning. This function does vary from mask to mask, though. (...) I've got no argument there. I had been hoping for this when I saw the first Bionicle (...) (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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(...) Not true. I don't like Star Wars, and none of the sculptures are of any use to me. What can i do with a giant minifig or dragon or sopwith camel? Maybe if the dragon was menacing I could pass it off as some monument in a medieval town, or if (...) (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) I never said otherwise. (...) Sets got worse in the last three years and other tehcnology improved. (...) Why would I look for them? So, if Bionicle is (...) Well for 1, fads never last.. (23 years ago, 12-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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in article GHw6zL.5qK@lugnet.com, Dave Johann at hardcoredj@techie.com wrote on 8/11/01 12:18 AM: (...) They are building parts, but they don't appear to be particularly useful building parts. Really all they are (from a building perspective) are (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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Tomas As the new Lego Mindstorms site has launched, when can we expect to see the old content "converted" to the new content? I have been looking for the scout SDK and it is to be found nowhere. I know the SDK is rather old, but many of the members (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I've read so much about anti-juniorization, anti-bionicle and desires for the return of town and space. But outside of expressions of nostalgia or all-out bashing, what I haven't heard is how individuals would like to see things directed in a *more (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.lego.direct) !!
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(...) O.K. I think we agree here. You're saying the kids are going elsewhere in droves. You're saying Bionicle doesn't interest you. Is there a chance then that it doesn't interest the kids as well? This is what I'm saying... that LEGO's product (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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Not quite true. I bought a very nice set of new LEGO wooden blocks in Billund last week. They come in a wooden box as well. Cary "Tony Priestman" <Tony@you-rang.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:eDgyuOAnGDd7EwO...n.co.uk... On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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Well, it's been 5 hours since I last posted ...I finally completed all of the Junkbot levels, with a score of 1093. Now, shouldn't I be ranked #23 on the Hall of Fame? 'Cause I'm not. Did I miss something in the way of rules? I assumed this game was (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Alright then, here's a bigger question. Do you consider the masks to be collectible items from Lego or do you think of them as 12 more building parts in semi random colors. I think of them in the second way. After all, if it can't be used in a (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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(...) And they have-- in droves. Themes like Bionicle are attempts to win them back. Guess what? I have not the *slightest* interest in Bionicle, but I'm not going to rail on it. And why should I? It's not intended for me. (...) Hence Bionicle. (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) I gotta' agree with Jake here, Tomas...HOW DARE YOU! You took up a WHOLE lot of my afternoon today when I stumbled across Junkbot. And I only got to the fourth building...Oh well, back to the trash-eatin'! Matt "Junkbot Addict #2" Gerber (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I have to agree with you with this... I would like to see a return of town, but not a return of police, fire or emergency sets....I have 95 % of the police and fire sets (including 2 flame fighters, and about to have 2 6389's.) I read some of (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) How do think TLC can do this? Make a Castle Kingdom for $50.00? Impossible. Kids buy lego because of its ability to create, and parents buy Lego because of its educational value. Lego was always an expensive toy, not just now. So if the price (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) And let me say, if you don't normally play the games on LEGO.com, this is the one to make you start. I have cursed Tomas, et. al for creating this HIGHLY addicting game more than once! Much fun for kids of ALL ages. "Hi, my name is Jake, and I (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Dan... if that makes you sad, just take a look at the style of buildings that LEGO used to put into their sets. These are the kind of buildings I got to enjoy as a kid: (URL) got proper walls, doors and a roof. It's got vehicles and yes, even (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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I see that some people who gave their thoughts and opinions on this topic have mixed reviews- not a suprise. Everyone's opinions DO count, but it doesnt seem that way to Lego. If Lego was listening to us, they would have probably kept the town/city (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) thanks for the heads up more reading to be done i see (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I can't speak for Joe, or Dan, or John, or the LEGO company... I can only speak for me. So here goes: (...) I've said it before and I'll say it again. If there isn't the quality of product being presented to these young kids that they (...) (23 years ago, 11-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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in article GHu78I.70u@lugnet.com, Dave Johann at hardcoredj@techie.com wrote on 8/9/01 10:29 PM: (...) I dunno, I think all the multi-colored masks are pretty cheezy. I agree that there should have been greater variety and more unique masks in the (...) (23 years ago, 10-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Lawrence Wilkes (<GHutoI.2yx@lugnet.com>) wrote at 13:37:06 (...) I agree with Lawrence here. But perhaps that's just where the market is. After all, TLG doesn't make wooden toys any more, either. (23 years ago, 10-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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I cant believe what Lego is doing to their toy line. First, they kill the town and city themes, second, they juniorized their sets to the point where a truck or car has only 10 pieces, then they introduce Jack Stone, without keeping another town or (...) (23 years ago, 10-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) I should have been more clear and highlighted the small dinosaur sets. Of course the big dinos do have two 2x2 medium slopes in them... :-) (...) I think we will see more building of animals from bricks. I also won't be surprised to see a few (...) (23 years ago, 10-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) I want to cry every time I see kids in the Lego aisle oohing and ahhing over the Megabloks. On well more than one occasion I've seen kids in the store ignore Lego the way I ignore Megabloks because they recognize that though Megabloks may be (...) (23 years ago, 10-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(URL) link is the end of a thread which is largely a rant, but some good points were brought up including this - Farm animals! Pink Pigs, brown cows, tan/white/grey sheep with little black faces, chickens, ducks, etc. And new "farm" foliage to (...) (23 years ago, 10-Aug-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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