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Re: Castle returns for 2000!
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Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:05:20 GMT
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Gary Istok wrote:

Richard Marchetti wrote:

In lugnet.general, Rose Regner writes:

Apparently, Queen Elizabeth -- who reigned for so long -- followed this
fashion to a point of embarassment for the rest of the court, continuing to
expose her breasts long after they had lost their "essential" attractiveness
to her advanced years!  Not quite the image one gets from the terrific film of
last year about Elizabeth, but there it is...

Perhaps those better informed can refute or support this historical claim of
mine.  My source, and I hope he wouldn't cringe to see his name here, is U.C.
Berkeley English Professor and Shakespeare authority Hugh Richmond.  I asked
him about it one day, and turning his head slant-wise to me as if to get a
better look at the upstart English major, he confirmed the essentials of what
I have related here.  I dunno, maybe at the time he would have preferred the
discussion were more about Thomas Wyatt's poetry and less about my prurient
interests...

-- Richard

QE1, when she died in 1603 was well into her 70's.  It's not quite the picture of
her one conjours up when you think of all those portraits of her in her full
regalia, with bejewelled gowns and ruffled collars that showed no exposed flesh
except her face and hands.  But I don't question the accuracy of it.  She had an
interesting life with all of her suitors and the men in her court (her "eyes", her
"ears", etc,  as she like to call them).

Sometimes, these fellows also ended up dead--Raleigh, Devereux/Essex, and the like.
It seems that the less comprehensible England became to Elizabeth, the greater her
rage against her "favourites".  (I've actually set eyes on a number of the Essex
letters from about 1596--they may still be in a display case near 2 Humanities in the
British Library.)

As for Bess's breastices, I can't say--it's unknown in portraiture, and has little but
anecdotal evidence as far as I'm aware.  However, it was fashionable and probably
comfortable to keep the breasts free above the corset.  They were generally covered
(or coverable) by fabric, however loosely; see many a painting for just *how* loosely.

And now for something LEGO.... they should make a QE1 minifig.  Actually they
should also make a Henry VIII and his 6 wives minifigs as well.  At least the
portly Henry VIII would be pretty true to minifig scale (fat). It would be great
for the castle series.  As a lover of European history (and especially English
history), these might even make me finally break down and actually "like"
minifigs.

The best part, of course, being that one can recreate Anne Boleyn c.1537 and Catherine
Howard c.1541 without actually "breaking" the minifigs.  ;)  However, I wonder how
they'd simulate the Incredible Expanding Henry with a standard torso...maybe they
really *will* make a Cartman just to have an additional use?  I think he was even
wider than minifig girth with respect to height by the time of his death.

LFB, your local historian of Britain.



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(...) Ah ha! A keeper of the Royal Anecdotes..... LFB, I too love British history. Maybe since I was born less than a mile from Schloss Rosenau near Coburg Germany - the birthplace of "dear Albert", Prince Consort of Queen Victoria, and the the (...) (25 years ago, 4-Nov-99, to lugnet.general)

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(...) QE1, when she died in 1603 was well into her 70's. It's not quite the picture of her one conjours up when you think of all those portraits of her in her full regalia, with bejewelled gowns and ruffled collars that showed no exposed flesh (...) (25 years ago, 3-Nov-99, to lugnet.general)

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